Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: Add kata!!! I want to see my tkm perform martial dances.

Chroma_Key
Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:17 am
#1

They should be like an entertainer'sdance and I'd suggest being able at high levels to heal the tka's battle fatigue.

High level tka's don't need medics so why should they need entertainers. Piece of mind is something a martial artist pursues from the beginning. Healing wounds is a high level fantasy ability. So BF makes a lot more sense to be cured by the tka.


You may say that tkas are already overpowered and that such an ability would prolong a dancer's/musician's grind. So I say give this ability to tkms.


I'd say give katato all master elite brawler professions.


In any case addkata even as an emote... they are truly an art form!





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Ryyger
Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:39 am
#2

As Master Entertainer being my primary's profession, I a forced to denounce this as evil. Bad enough that we need to wait for hundreds of BF before you actually stop by and then talk about little more than your BF total, now you want to completely remove about half of our audiance!

This isn't about XP. Entertainers are a social profession. Make them redundant and suddenly they have no one to socilize WITH.



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Laeren
Wed Apr 14, 2004 10:46 am
#3

I'll agree with adding a kata for demonstration and fun purposes, similar to how the default /dance has that goofy ballet. Perhaps TKAs could just get a cool animation like this. Or, a TKA /salute, which would be coupled with fencer, swordsman and pike /salutes. Just some cool displays to keep a good martial-arts feel to all of the melee classes.


I don't agree with healing BF though. Sorry, leave that to the entertainers






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Ryutek
Wed Apr 14, 2004 11:27 am
#4






Laeren wrote:

I'll agree with adding a kata for demonstration and fun purposes, similar to how the default /dance has that goofy ballet. Perhaps TKAs could just get a cool animation like this. Or, a TKA /salute, which would be coupled with fencer, swordsman and pike /salutes. Just some cool displays to keep a good martial-arts feel to all of the melee classes.


I don't agree with healing BF though. Sorry, leave that to the entertainers








I'd have to say I agree. I wouldn't mind a kata (although classifying it as an art form I don't really agree with, or at least not all ) but definitely no to healing BF.



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atone48732
Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:14 pm
#5

that goes in then a tka should have to get dancing 4 and whatever the BF healing one is from dancing from Entertainer plus maybe master brawler


then and only then could this "Kata" thing be justified



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Ryutek
Wed Apr 14, 2004 2:44 pm
#6






atone48732 wrote:

that goes in then a tka should have to get dancing 4 and whatever the BF healing one is from dancing from Entertainer plus maybe master brawler


then and only then could this "Kata" thing be justified






Not necessarily. That would have to happen (in my opinion) for it to do any type of healing, but just a kata for RP purposes (like the /dance command you can do that has no benefit) could easily be considered. However, I would think all melee professions should get this perk if it is considered.



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Ryyger
Wed Apr 14, 2004 3:06 pm
#7



Chroma_Key wrote:

besides after pub 10 there will be no holo grind so entertainers will not have to fear anything then. the only entertainers will be the ones who want to do these profs so they'll have a big audience and LESS competition.

they won't miss the tkms...




If you think that's the only source of marcotainers and that AFKing is the only threat to Entertainers, you haven't been paying attention. Though granted that is the biggest problem.



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Onichi
Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:23 pm
#8

Heh! I was thinking about this "Kata" thing a while ago but never posted about it.. I'd have to say Healing BF would be a no no.. I was thinking more along the lines of having several different "Kata" or "forms" that allowed you to temporarily boost the "Defense vs ...." type stats.. example:


Kata 1 - Boosts Defense vs Posture changefor a duration and % amount based on yourCOB skills

Kata 2 - Boosts Defense vs Knockdown for a duration and% amount based on your COB skills


So on and so forth..


There'd be animations involved and you would have to do them for a certain amount of time for it to take effect, something like Entertainer buffs. it'd be kind of like a preparation for battle and you would be able to Stack at most two types of "Kata" buffs. The problem is now that sort of thing would take away from Chef foods but it would provide an alternative to them I suppose.


I didn't get into too much detail but hopefully the idea comes across.. I think it'd be pretty cool to see in game.


And yes, all Melee profs should get them I think



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Dravenite83
Wed Apr 14, 2004 6:42 pm
#9

I like the idea of all melee profs having a kata. Melee profs are based off martial arts. For proof of that watch a melee character fighting. One thing most all forms of Martial Arts have in common is the Kata. It is used in most forms as a demonstration of mental clarity and understanding of ones techniques. I think having it heal BF would be a little too overpowering though. Let it give a boost to yoursecomdary stats since that is the intent of the Kata. To Center the martial artist on his craft, to prepare him for what he is doing. I also like the idea of them having defense aspects but I think TKs already have high enough defences that this would just lead to more nerf crying. If this is added it should be added either at Master or in two pieces in the Meditation tree. First piece would give you a boost to mental secondaries and second piece give boost to physical secondaries. Bah thats just my two cents...


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Chroma_Key
Thu Apr 15, 2004 12:52 am
#10

i have also mastered dancer as well and it was not a holo grind choice!


i did because i love roleplaying and i am greatly dissapointed by the experience.


i can hardly call afk grinding (80% of dancers-musicians) socializing...



besides after pub 10 there will be no holo grind soentertainers will not have to fear anything then. the only entertainers will be the ones who want to do these profsso they'll have a big audience and LESS competition.



they won't miss the tkms...







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Chroma_Key
Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:01 am
#11

I finished my post saying that if the devs consider the bf healing overpowered then just add the kata as an emote. Think how many tkas just sit there meditating while waiting for a buff, while listening to advertisements in coronet... Meditation is something that identifies tka as a disciplined warrior and people love just watching their characters sit like that. So kata will be greatly appreciated.


I must say though that I would prefer the kata having some use other than looking cool.

I consider adding defenses, buffing secondaries really desired effects BUT I find it hard to understand why you protest against my idea of BF healing, judging it overpowered and suggest these other "balanced" things


What is worse? Healing your OWN battle fatigue or buffing your secondaries or gaining extra defenses?





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Sirisandir
Thu Apr 15, 2004 4:28 am
#12

That is stupid; I have no intention of dancing....especially when it puts another profession down and usless....



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O_Shua
Thu Apr 15, 2004 5:08 am
#13

......and still no love for the underpowered ranged combat profesion........



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