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Thread: TKM Tanking v. Jedi Tanking

Triarius
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:26 pm
#1
TKM's job is to tank... but compared to a jedi we have no chance. Anything that can be tanked by a jedi should be Tankable by a TKM/MD but look at a Dark Jedi Knight or Master, no TKM even has a chance. One hit and we are down, NK is the same. I dont want them to nerf Jedi anymore, but they need to remove force aviod incap, or no one can tank anywhere near their level.


Its a sad fate for TKA, Triarius
ShrekECPI
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:29 pm
#2
oh, sorry, wronng topic

I saw tanking a jedi and started thing the M1 Abrahms would do nicely. "Saber Block this jeeddai, 120 mm for teh win"



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Nameless - Vaksai(drydock)
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Ronaj
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:29 pm
#3
Personally I don't really feel that they should be compared, naturally a Jedi is going to be better at it, they are a class that takes a lot of work not only to basically unlock but also to work up there to where they can tank like they can.



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ShrekECPI
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:39 pm
#4
I do so long for the days where a TKM was the only profession that could get through Jedi defenses effectively. Then they get us nerfed downto horse holding duty



Post CU MBH/MRiflemanto a Post CU TKM:

"Hey you, yeah you the guy with out a gun. You stay here and watch the speeders. If something attacks them flail on it with your fists so that it eats you instead of my bike. Don't worry about anything at least you can still heal your own wounds. See you at the cloners"



Pistoleer/TKM/MSMG(extinct) - Master Smuggler - Strong in the power of the Farce - Alliance Soldier
Retired Smuggler's Alliance Master Pilot - Retired Crimson Phoenix Master Pilot - Havok Squad Master Pilot
Squirmy - Heavy Z
NX-1 - Longprobe
Switchblade - ARC 170
Nameless - Vaksai(drydock)
Manta-Ray - Grevious B-22
Xcetera - Heavy X- Wing
Border Runner - A-Wing
Iwifia
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:41 pm
#5
how u figure we cant tank the NK??? i can solo the thing with the right foods



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Iwifia
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:42 pm
#6

ShrekECPI wrote:
I do so long for the days where a TKM was the only profession that could get through Jedi defenses effectively. Then they get us nerfed down to horse holding duty
Post CU MBH/MRifleman to a Post CU TKM:
"Hey you, yeah you the guy with out a gun. You stay here and watch the speeders. If something attacks them flail on it with your fists so that it eats you instead of my bike. Don't worry about anything at least you can still heal your own wounds. See you at the cloners"


ummmmm how is the stuff in ur sig near accurate??? i can kill any ranged guy with my eyes closed



"This Emulator stuff is nothing more then a hobby for some really smart people. If someone can write an SWG emulatorthats any good, please apply for a job here. You also better know SQL pretty well and have an oracle database and a ton of other important stuff. SWGEmu is nothing more then a UI mod. Now if some genius ever pulled it off... well that would be another matter entirely. You seariously don't think we're worried about this do you?"
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ShrekECPI
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:46 pm
#7
I was thinking more along the lines of our abilities as damage dealers now as compared to what it was pre CU.



Pistoleer/TKM/MSMG(extinct) - Master Smuggler - Strong in the power of the Farce - Alliance Soldier
Retired Smuggler's Alliance Master Pilot - Retired Crimson Phoenix Master Pilot - Havok Squad Master Pilot
Squirmy - Heavy Z
NX-1 - Longprobe
Switchblade - ARC 170
Nameless - Vaksai(drydock)
Manta-Ray - Grevious B-22
Xcetera - Heavy X- Wing
Border Runner - A-Wing
Iwifia
Tue Jun 28, 2005 9:53 pm
#8
get swordsman with it, and there u go



"This Emulator stuff is nothing more then a hobby for some really smart people. If someone can write an SWG emulatorthats any good, please apply for a job here. You also better know SQL pretty well and have an oracle database and a ton of other important stuff. SWGEmu is nothing more then a UI mod. Now if some genius ever pulled it off... well that would be another matter entirely. You seariously don't think we're worried about this do you?"
-Smed 03-24-06

Remember... Remember... The 15th of November...
ShrekECPI
Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:12 pm
#9
Um no.

Unarmed should be unarmed, not unarmed using sword attacks.


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My sig changes daily, today I'm complaining about my nerfed damage output, tomorrow it may be a list of Bria Jedi that have too much xp.



Pistoleer/TKM/MSMG(extinct) - Master Smuggler - Strong in the power of the Farce - Alliance Soldier
Retired Smuggler's Alliance Master Pilot - Retired Crimson Phoenix Master Pilot - Havok Squad Master Pilot
Squirmy - Heavy Z
NX-1 - Longprobe
Switchblade - ARC 170
Nameless - Vaksai(drydock)
Manta-Ray - Grevious B-22
Xcetera - Heavy X- Wing
Border Runner - A-Wing
hamhamthe3rd
Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:16 pm
#10
more correct, the title should be MASTER DEFENDER because i can assure you that without avoid incap running beforehand no jedi would stand up against a djm or knight npc. then again this is all moot because it is obvious that those npcs arent even balanced for the system. unless you think it was the devs intent to have things that can do 10s of thousands of damage to a fully armored lvl 80 pc, as balanced.
sArAhBrIgHtMaN
Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:40 pm
#11




ShrekECPI wrote:

Um no.

Unarmed should be unarmed, not unarmed using sword attacks.


TKM/MSmuggler This is what I am and whatI shall be.

My sig changes daily, today I'm complaining about my nerfed damage output, tomorrow it may be a list of Bria Jedi that have too much xp.





well the profession overview of tk and pretty much all the other melee classes and ranged is that you MUST combine it with other combat skills to shine, as in TKA isnt enough just by itself, you need other melee skills to really make it shine.


besides punching something should never be as powerful as swinging a gigantic pike at someones armor.


even with Taijiquan Fajing, punching metal with a fist is only going to break your own hands...





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JediDeathLord
Tue Jun 28, 2005 11:53 pm
#12
Jedi should be stronger then us if they have defender, but i find with the right food, buffs, and bacta infusion & heals i can tank and kill almost anything. If you want better tanking ability go TKM/ Master defender with some heal.



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Xipe
Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:17 am
#13




hamhamthe3rd wrote:
then again this is all moot because it is obvious that those npcs arent even balanced for the system. unless you think it was the devs intent to have things that can do 10s of thousands of damage to a fully armored lvl 80 pc, as balanced.



QFE


Anythingfive levels above or below you is going to affect damage output and resistance, and is thus not supposed to be solo:ed or tankable. I tanked five Night Sisters yesterday, and then four Bane Back Spiders and three more right after (without getting the chance to get my Mind up inbetween the Bane Back fights).


I held aggro for the entire fights, getting pounded,while my friend bashed away at them with carbine (my PH helped keeping aggro on whatever he was doing his specials on, I even outdamaged him with some of mine). Didn't even break a sweat.


So don't tell me TKM is broke as a tank just 'cause you can't tank a CL94 (or whatever); you're not supposed to be able to do that; and I also don't really buy the whining on the Swordsman board about their damage output either.


As for TKM damage, with the resistance we have I think it's spot on; if you're not happy with it you need to get a complementing profession.


Just my 2 cents.



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