Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Say NO to 30 seconds timer...!
Make it to either 10 seconds or 15 max, not 30. 30 is very, very, very stupid.
Enough said.
All you TKA's brought this on yourself. You wanted to wear armor and have a VK. So you will be able to, they are uping the dmg and lowering the HAM cost by a nice chunk. Also you complained about the pistoleer spamers and this is how they stopping it.
Before you get to flaming me, yes i do have a TKA and no he isnt a master. DoI use KD and lunge? yes, am I depedent? no. Will this suck my exp? possibly. but here is the important part, do i use armor or a VK? no. I am smart enough to know that if i Incap myself everytime i use KD that i should stop. if you cant learn tha tconcept, you deserve to do to a baby gnort IMO.
Also, do i solo reds? no. We are not meant to solo reds, in theory we are barely supposed to make away from a yellow fight and that is with 'advance tactics'. yes the quote also says weapons/armor but like i said, to me the encumberment from them is just way to costly for a class such as TKA that does need to use special moves to solo.
And when i say do special moves, that isnt just lunge kd and dizzy. I also mean use war cry, intimidation, stun(not very effective but lowers stats alil and takes one combat round away from them), and blind. use these in conjunction with dizzy, lunge and kd. be versitle, not just reliant on one set of moves and unadaptable.
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All you TKA's brought this on yourself. You wanted to wear armor and have a VK
Last time I checked the word "all" meant everyone. Well in that case you are wrong. ALOT of us don't wear armor and ALOT of us wish VK's weren't in the game and our hands worked better. I would be so happy if my hands did near the same damage as VKs so I didn't have to wear the stupid things.
And yes 30 seconds is too long. Should be more like 10-15.
Your right maybe i shouldnt of said 'all' but from my expeirience over 80% of the TKAs i talk to complain about not being able to weild a vk and use armor. And i dont know, but I do just as good, but i most likely have + 15-25 to speed and dmg over a lot of other TKA's i talk to. Why? Trans+master brawler. Was it a pain to get to master brawler? yes, do i think its worth it? yes. +20 to intimidate, war cry, and even though i dont really use it and berserk along with upgrades to all said abilites are nice.
Most tkas that i talk to are human/zabrak and only worked on unarmed. They are also the ones that complain about vks and armor.
Actually, I say Yes to the timer. It's especially needed in PvP.
Basically, everyone got spoiled on KD (I admit Idid as well) and now everyone is crying to get the easy ride back.
I have no idea where this troll is coming from on armor, I don't even wear it. As far as VKs, I only use them when I berserk. I *never* style with them.
Well I am a human in real life and yes I am a human in-game.
No I do not wear armor, and no I don't think KD spammin' is a nice thing to do.
Yes HAM cost is not really a concern since I don't like people spamming a special move over and over.
Sorry no I do not complain about armor, and I don't complain about VK. I don't have to analyze all these cons for 30 seconds timer thing coz others have done it over and over again.
It's not the end of the day, but personally I think 10 - 15 seconds is more reasonable than 30 seconds.
My point is made.
Ummm.... I am a TK and a 30 second timer is not that unreasonable, although I think a 20 second one makes more sense. We should not be able to spam KD nor should any other class. If they reduce HAM costs on our other moves we should not have to rely on KD. One KD and a good series of combos should seriously harm most mobs/players.
YES to a 20 second timer !!!
Unknown I think you are making a very broad statment.
I do not wear armor and I do use VK's as it is my only way to keep myself relatively close to a Trandoshan or wookie. I'm a Mon Cal. With all of the bonuses that Trandoshan's and Wookie's get.....I don't stand a chance without them.
If I have to guess you are trandoshan as most unarmed melee people are.....and frankly it pisses me off. Trandos get all the buffs so when they are hit with a nerf it isn't nearly as bad as if I got beat with the nerf bat. Cause now not only do I have nothing to defend myself against a ranged person, but now....I couldn't dream of keeping up witha Trandoshan.
If we cant kd, what we supposed to do to stop a gun user from kiting us? Might as well sit down and just die, at least will be sooner.
All they got to do is run away and spam mind shot. Takes 2 to 3 to finish a TK.
They are alsoincreasing the penaltys while moving and shooting, along with defense while moving. Hopefully this will help the kite issue.
Look at what we have now though, as a TK we don't have much chance againstthose rangedprofessions with a KD. As it stands now, they spam us with ranged KD attacks. Its a double edged sword, IMO the 30 second timer is better for us then not having it.
The 30 second timer is going to do more harm than good for PVE, first off in a group I am the meat that has to take the hits, NO I do not wear armor at all, I choose to use socketted clothing with stats modifying attachements. 30 Seconds is more than plenty of time for most white or yellow mobs to tear you down. Now this whole timer thing is a good idea but 30 seconds is too long. Half it that would give us a fighting chance, or the devs could give us an adequate melee defense.
I do not want to be godlike nor invincible. I understand ranged attackers will tear me down one way or the other, I am not asking to beat them in PVP because frankly I chose my class for playing PVE and yes PVE mobs will kite a melee though not like a player. I can shoot back since I do have some minor ranged skills but that is what I use to kill off that creature on its death walk that can still beat me to death because I can not attack while moving and using melee.
But unlike PVP PVE mobs do not do less damage every hit nor do they have only 1500ham or so they have much larger HAM bars than a player and in order for a group to do well and survive against these things we need to have either tactics that work against the mob or we need specials that mean the mob doesn't just chew through each member of the group in an instant. Right now KD is a primary crowd control move as well as a way for a group to take down something that would easily kill each player in the group as single uncoordinated attack.
Now I hunt with a regular bunch of folks and half of us have KD in one form or another, this allows us to take on some pretty sizeable creatures and npcs. But the moment KD is resisted one of us gets incapped pretty fast. So as you can see where I am going with this 30 second KD timer means that now the incaps will come at an ugly rate OR we can all go as a group and hunt much lower things, keep in mind I am not saying we go hunt down DJK or anything I am just talking about hunting things that are white to the group like a droideka here or there which consequently are a kiting mob and do frequently cause me as the melee in the group considerable damage if it is not KDed.
So all i am trying to say is though the 30 second timer may benefit all the PVP in the game that is great and fine I do not do PVP and I do not want to do PVP I like PVE and I would like to continue enjoying it, but if I am relegated to taking a group to take on Shallow Tortons rather than going and taking on a Droideka or Nym Pirate or even the ocassional Rancor I am going to really begin to dislike even playing.
So just say no to 30 seconds half that sucker and give us a fighting chance.
Cilled Arack Teras Kasi Novice(3rd tier)/ Creature Handler Novice/ Field Stablizer(Medic)/ wielder of the mighty scout blaster
"What do you mean this game is not about having fun?" ~Me after the last TKA nerf