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Thread: VK or no VK?

Ozzo
Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:28 am
#1

This has probably already been asked, but im curious to know how many of you use a Vibro knuckler and how many dont. I personally cant stand the HAM loss when using one, especially since I wear a bit of armor and always use specials. What about you?




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Majinvegita
Mon Nov 24, 2003 8:39 am
#2

I personally only use them on Creatures with medium or heavy armor, that is, if they have more than say 40% kenetic resists. That and mission lairs/bases. Being that im master doc as well, i can buff myself to 3.5k stats pretty easily , and when using moun gold or BoH, i can litteraly spam UAH3 the 50 times non stop it takes to kill a lair, then move on without healing




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Ozo
Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:53 pm
#3

I quit using mine once I hit Power 4 in TKA. I was losing a ton of mind pool from the special moves.


I am a master doc and do buff all the stats I can whenever i go into battle and was constantly getting mind incapped after 2 pickets on Dantooine using VK's. Now without them I can take 5-6 before my mind incaps. (Thats 5-6 in pairs or at most 3 at a time)


I also dont wear armor and I dont use mind buffs, drugs, anything. Have all my mind stats maxed and I dont have pets.




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Schwartzwind
Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:48 pm
#4

I'm absolutely against the use and very existance of the Vibroknuckler. I feel it has tainted the profession's core. I'm baffled by the notion of a solelyunarmed combat discipline using a weapon other than onesnatural limbs. I must sound like a broken record, but "Teras Kasi", "Steal Hands"in essence means that you'd have no need for a weapon asyou yourself have become one. Is that so hard to comprehend?!


If you throw a tool into the field then of course there are going to be people/players who will make use of it, regardless of how reflects upon the profession. Some people obviously don't give a **edit** how they excel, or, in my opinion, lack taste. Not only that, but when said tool is considered an esential piece of kit in contrast to being true to the profession, then that's a debacle. Vibroknucklers make me sick.


Insteadof making them a token of the profession, integrating them fully by giving them clear disadvantages to their use: A lack of performing refined techniques, like gloves, for the increased power you'dhave to forsake special moves, there's no logical reason not to use them as it is. I'm at a disadvantage for using an unarmed profession without the aid of a weapon? That can't be right surely...


HAM increase is a pitiful penance for an item that shatters the image of being an unarmed combatant. The development team have my contempt in this regard. What possessed you to create such a stupid thing?!


To hell with the vibroknuckler and any other half-baked ideas for weapons within Teras Kasi.




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Malachus
Mon Nov 24, 2003 5:59 pm
#5

Personally, I don't like them all that much but they do have their place. Right now, with my current set of abilities I pretty much ignore them as they spin carelessly in my toolbar. Until I had Power 4 I used them pretty regularly, and I still do if I encounter something with an annoyingly high armour rating, or if I'm so buffed that I don't care about HAM costs. Normally, I'd much rather be able to use lots of specials so I go barehanded, as I can do plenty of damage just like that.


Also as Schwartzwind said, it's UNARMED combat, so I really really really prefer to leave the knucklers out of it.


The only other time I use them is when I'm using Centre of Being. When I've got that on I don't care much about specials (owing to CoB's high HAM cost I don't *want* to use any other specials), so I will sometimes use the knucklers for a little extra damage.






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dashida
Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:02 pm
#6

I can't wait till i hit Power 4 so I dont have to rely on VKs. For the TKMs, do you feel the same about armor? Are you still reliant on armor even with the unarmed toughness?





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Malachus
Mon Nov 24, 2003 6:05 pm
#7

I'm not quite a Master yet, but I'll say this: armour good. Get somehigh quality(68% kinetic) Ubese and you'll be a happier person. =)





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sstrakas
Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:09 am
#8

vibro knucklers are ok if your working up the ranks but as soon as i hit master they had to go. the only time i ever use em is when im doing imp missions nad i kill all the npc's and go to kill the base. on the bases i just equip vk's and go berserk.



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Ozzo
Tue Nov 25, 2003 12:20 am
#9

my 60% kinetic ubese with extra low ham costs is always handy in battle. foget compostite though, you will jsut hurt yourself.




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Ozzo
Tue Nov 25, 2003 1:21 am
#10

Thanks




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Aynsun
Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:57 am
#11

Good set of Vk's and berserk does about same damage as UA2 without vk's and takes less HAM and AP1. I still use them and will continue using them. If I want to take something down fast Vk's will do to the job, I do have med skills to cover up higher ham cost.


I do wish that at master level fists would be AP1, then there would be really reason to have TKM and could get rid of Vk's entirely. I dont see this happening but would love to see it.




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Sekkoutai
Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:28 am
#12

I don't use VK's or wear Armor (save for Ubese Bracers, they look cool).


I brought up the AP1 fists at Master once and was politely told to go away.


My character is aDoshan that believes that the only true "pure" jagannath points are from kills using bare hands.


So that's why I don't use them.

Jux
Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:33 am
#13

I have a set of cloth/padded armor..whatever they call it. I only use the boots/arms but seem to get hit alot there first...which means I dont get hit chest/thighs. This is all PVE though.




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