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Thread: Some data regarding Unarmed Toughness

Thunderwulf
Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:20 am
#1

Im pretty sure I can share this because it involves how an existing game system works, just like Meditate yesterday. But I got this little infobyte today on exactly how Unarmed Toughness works...



Unarmed Toughness decreases melee damage that you take when hit with a melee weapon and you're using unarmed.


So if it's 25, you get a 25% damage reduction in melee combat when you're unarmed.



For some reason Ithought it was effective when we were gettinghit by both melee and ranged attacks.


Thought you all might like to hear this.





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LoBai
Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:22 am
#2

Thanks for sharing and educating us Wulf. Much appreciated.
Dhiago
Tue Sep 23, 2003 11:54 am
#3

So basically, the whole kiting issue is a double whammy on us. Not only can we not hit the person/NPC kiting us but we take more damage because it's ranged combat, not melee combat. Ouch!


This makes sense though...I've noticed many times that i can have three white con mobs around me and be able to take them down as long as they are Melee. If I've got a couple things shooting at me...it's all over but the crying. I guess that's why they made armor though!


Thanks Thunder for passing this along!




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Thunderwulf
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:05 pm
#4

Yes, VK's count as an unarmed weapon. There is no difference in UT with Knuckler on or off.






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StrychnineRictus
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:13 pm
#5

Ok, wait. This has to be only against other unarmed opponents, i think. Otherwise you are saying we have a kinetic resist = unarmed toughness. So that means that the Kunga warrior who was hitting me for upwards of 400 damage would do 800 to someone with unarmed toughness +0? BTW, i have +44 unarmed toughness. That seems a little high.



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StrychnineRictus
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:14 pm
#6

And i don't mean my UT of 44 seems high. I mean 800 damage for said Kunga Warrior seems high.




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evetsleep
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:16 pm
#7

Most excellent Thunderwulf. I can see the correspondant forums must be doing some good now :-) This info that you are getting really does clear things up that are not immediately obvious and I for one really appreciate the info.




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Thunderwulf
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:20 pm
#8

UT works against MELEE damage. That includes swords, pikes and fists.


Put simlpy..


Sam swings Ax at Al who has UT of 0 and hits for 100.


The same hit on you with 44 UT would hit for 56.





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Mister_Heavy
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:24 pm
#9

Excellent. Thank you.



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StrychnineRictus
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:24 pm
#10

Right, i got through kindergarten, thanks. What i am saying is i find it hard to believe that if someone with no unarmed toughness got hit by that kunga warrior (normal hit, mind you) that they would take upwards of 800 damage. But you have probably tested this, and i haven't. I understand the concept just fine, it just doesn't seem like it's really working. I will test this as soon as i get home today though, since curiosity will kill me if i don't. Thanks for letting us know what you know, Thunderwulf. Oh, and what will UT be at TKM? Does anyone know?



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Zarne
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:37 pm
#11

Force Crystal hunters hit me for 75% of their damage potential when i had about 40 or 50 UT. There's another factor for those guys. They don't have armor piercing, do they?



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Wagadodo
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:41 pm
#12

I don't know if it works the same way. But you have to remember that most Ranged users also have a melee denfence bonus. So you would need to compare the damage to you, and the Artisan Newbie that has taken no combat skills at all for an accurate reading. Then maybe if you could find some the other combat proffessions and see what kind of damage is done to them.



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StrychnineRictus
Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:44 pm
#13

well, i can just equip a CDEF pistol or a survival knife, no? I don't have any Marksman skills, or one hand melee.... so i shouldn't have any special defensive modifiers when using those weapons. Well, unless i get a little bonus at novice brawler, but i can still test, since that bonus is very small, most likely.



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