Teras Kasi Archive

Thread: Question: If Teras Kasi were keeping the Jedi incheck...

Genrader
Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:41 am
#1

If Teras Kasi were keeping the Jedi in check before/during/after the Empire (not to hunt Jedi, they were there to make sure Jedi didn't start doing stuff like destroying another world which is why Teras Kasi came into being), and if we should be able to be almost evenly matched with a Jedi...

Should the Teras Kasi grind be any harder? So far, and I'm not a master, it's been the easiest combat profession I've mastered yet.

I'm not saying it /should/ be harder, but I'm asking IF it should?

Naele
Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:21 am
#2

First of all, a teras kasi artist's purpose is NOT to keep Jedi in check. It never was, never will be unless an author decides to write it that way. There is no canon source that supports this view.

Semantics aside, if SOE decides to sponsor this view, then I think the Teras Kasi profession should be a harder grind as well as taking up more skill points, but also should be a more powerful profession.
Bob_the_tomato
Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:16 am
#3

I have a TKM, andI have a Jedi.


TKM's aren't Jedi hunters. Never were. No canon supports this, only fan fiction. The devs are making a huge mistake here. First they say Bounty Hunters are supposed to be the anti-jedi class, now they say it's TKM's. Which is true? Can't be both, one is ranged and one is melee. TKM's need a different role, not some lame Jedi Hunter role.



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konik
Wed Jun 23, 2004 11:27 am
#4

factionalised jedi police will do me for what TK's can do to tie into the TKA vs Jedi debate in SWG. Just on another note it is known that rogue Jedi can also be BH, a TKM can also polute themselves with extrenal force usage. Generally TK's have a more linear understanding of the force unlike the schizophrenia of the Jedi.
Knightcrest
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:39 pm
#5






Bob_the_tomato wrote:

I have a TKM, andI have a Jedi.


TKM's aren't Jedi hunters. Never were. No canon supports this, only fan fiction. The devs are making a huge mistake here. First they say Bounty Hunters are supposed to be the anti-jedi class, now they say it's TKM's. Which is true? Can't be both, one is ranged and one is melee. TKM's need a different role, not some lame Jedi Hunter role.






Not canon? Lucasarts tends to be very picky on what goes in any Star Wars product they have, and only allow ideas that come from George Lucas's original writings and ideas. Some they have adapted and evolved as it strengthens what was not possible to include to build onto the original ideas.


Guess The Masters of Teras Kasi that was produced around 1997 for the PS1 (1 on 1 fighter game) and produced byLucasarts wasn't showing theexistence ofTeras Kasi in Star Wars. Here is the quote from the bio of Arden Lyn...


"As the order of the Jedi resurfaces, so do the teachings of teras kasi, in the form of Arden Lyn, master of teras kasi. A Palawan warrior from the time of Jedi, her uthfulness belies her age. Her skills as one of the last teras kasi masters has attracted the Emperor and Darth Vader, who have assigned her to track down and take out key Rebel Alliance personnel. Arden however has her own agenda..."


Well Vader and the Emporer were still alive so this isn't post Star Wars timelined. It is set after the loss of the first Death Star. Kinda fitting that teras kasi is resurfacing with the resurfacing of the order of jedi


Not a flame, so don't take it as I am trying to be rude, but Teras Kasi is around the swg realms more than most realize even if not in the first trilogy. I might like to see us having a bit more of a prereq for master... but that is another issue. Just wanted to throw this up to see what people thought 'bout it.





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Genrader
Wed Jun 23, 2004 9:28 pm
#6

Yes, also there are some Teras Kasi that Xizor assigns to be assassins in Shadows of the Empire as well, which is between ESB And RotJ

Sugasug
Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:18 pm
#7

The ONLY canon in the Star Wars universe is the movies. Period. Everything else is semi-canon and fan fiction.
ltgrifter
Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:26 am
#8



Genrader wrote:
Yes, also there are some Teras Kasi that Xizor assigns to be assassins in Shadows of the Empire as well, which is between ESB And RotJ





Wow, I just got done saying this EXACT same thing in a seperate thread somewhere
Vandalian
Thu Jun 24, 2004 3:52 am
#9

Your argument is completely nullifiedby the fact that the source of Teras Kasi storyline is in your supposed "fan fiction". The name "Teras Kasi" didnt come from thin air, it was taken from that fan fiction and should therefor adhere to the storyline within that "Fan Fiction." Go home...
CarpaBob
Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:14 am
#10

Who cares if it is canon or not, its not like SWG sticks to whats in the films rigidly. In the films we never see Bounty Hunters being hired to capture/kill Jedi yet that is the big feature of Bounty Hunters in SWG.


Also if we go by the films Pikemen would be one of the most powerful professions, as a 'blind' Han Solo who probably hasn't even made Novice Pikeman yet smacked out Boba Fett with a big stick in RoTJ.



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Knightcrest
Thu Jun 24, 2004 5:22 am
#11








CarpaBob wrote:


Also if we go by the films Pikemen would be one of the most powerful professions, as a 'blind' Han Solo who probably hasn't even made Novice Pikeman yet smacked out Boba Fett with a big stick in RoTJ.







LOL ...thanks for the morning laugh. Just picturing Han Solo with a Apprentice Pikeman tag over his head doing polearmspin1 with a LVA.



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slim151
Thu Jun 24, 2004 11:59 am
#12






Sugasug wrote:

The ONLY canon in the Star Wars universe is the movies. Period. Everything else is semi-canon and fan fiction.





kind of a silly statement to make bro. The movies you put your faith in are based on BOOKS. The only affinitive authority on any matter pertaning to SW universe is and always will be the books and George Lucas himself. To say that the MOVIES are what makes this game is like saying Hollywood dude The movies made it famous but the movies were made from the books.


Now heres the thing... TKM arent supposed to be jedi hunters. They are supposed to keep jedi in check. By himself a TKM could not take down a jedi but they fought in packs and only then could they take down rogue jedi. Very simply, TKM use what skills and defenses they have to allow a group to overpower a jedi. THAT is what it means when they say that TKM are meant to keep jedi in check. we are in NO WAY equal to a jedi


I fought with a guardian that was pretty close to 4-4-4-4 and you wouldnt BELIEVE how fast this person took down a VERY high level creature. Not to mention the other 5 that were around the area. I imagine this creature (150k HAM) was taken down in less than 2 minutes. NO JOKE! we arent equal to a jedi all we do is allow ourselves to gain a foothold OVER a jedi, but again ONLY in a group




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Tenfo
Thu Jun 24, 2004 1:40 pm
#13

If Teras Kasi are to be the Jedi nemesis then the similar equivalent progression must exist.


To equate a few day profession mastery with a 6 month one is just ludicrous. I was a master TKA as well as many other combat classes and they don't come any where near the effort or cost to reach a high level Jedi.


If TKA are indeed to be the near equal of Jedi then make the experience and pre-requisites for TKA similar to Jedi. It should then take months to reach near Master TKA and millions upon millions of xp.


The big question for the developers is why are you screwing over Bounty Hunters? They were supposed to be the ones keeping Jedi in check from day one.


TKA is a joke to master. No offense but I have also been Master Bounty Hunter as well and it takes much greater effort and skill points. Master BH the force and threat to Jedi they were supposed to be.


The developers need to rethink this stupidity and narrow minded comments from TH. Stop ruining the game now in the name of some false fun factors.



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