Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: Got beat up by a duelist from a different faction... BUT REALLY BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD
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Auhal
Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:00 am
#1
Could he possibly have had 90% kinetic armour on? And be using synthsteak?
Onsa
Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:05 am
#2
Most probably.. but what was he hitting me with??? so with kinetic armor we SUcCK on PvP???????????????
Onsa
Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:21 am
#4
no my composite is not stun... but when i got out of the cloning center i saw that my PSG wasn't equiped..
Still... was TOO MUCH damage hit... i thought that TKM were the uber of the melee professions....
i made a lot of mistakes though and i was like, i dont know much what to do... i was unprepared.. a bit unexpected as i was waiting for my CM friend to finish to head over tatooine.. I wasn't quite expecting and the surprise was a big of a shock...... at one point i hit the VK (F1 in my toolbar) and unequipped them... What i found was that my uheadhit didn't do JACK!
I was being MASSIVELY healed by the CM mind and health... he proceeded to kill the CM first and then me!!! as expected.. the thing is that either was the poison and disease that really got to me (didn't have those buffs) or was his stick or anything... i really DONT KNOW...
Next time im checking my PSG and not leaving w/o the disease/poison buffs.
Onsa
Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:22 am
#5
The PSG is only 45% though... if he has 80-90% kinetic and i have 45% STun then im way way disadvantaged.... it MUST have been the disease.. im going to log on just to check what was hittingme so HARD!
Onsa
Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:51 am
#6
Well...
After doing a stat encounter... he should still win... and more if he had the poison... more if he was using a stun baton and more since neither my armor nor my PSG where adequate...
Is there any stun armor around?
Stat encounter:
Relevant Stat Fencer TKA/0030 pistoleer
Defense vs BLind +40 +50
Defense vs Posture Ch +50+30
Defense vs Intimidate +20 0
Dodge +105+10
Melee Toughness +32 +57
Combat Equil +30+55
Defense vs Post Ch +50+30
Melee Defense +74 +62
Weapon Speed +90 +115
CoB` +115 +90
After watching the log... i had the better part hitting damage... but looks like poison just killed me really... i got to intimidate him a few times and he was hitting for 60 damage while i was hitting for 260 damage overall.. so not that bad.. which means he did have a 90% composite kinetic as i normally do damage in hte 2600 range...
I think he has better defenses and with better armor and such he won.... period.... i did many things wrong.. like.. he was BEATING me first and i didn't see it comming...
Anyways.. next time i should be more careful about poison... i think its the only thing that killed me after seeing the log.. as i was taking a 1200 damage in a single sec and its not logged by any shot or something...
Again i was being massively healed... so i shouldn't have lost at all.
Onsa
Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:55 am
#7
actually another person told me that it was also the fire.. he set me on fire 
so i got virtually all states and DoT possibles... i should have changed to my scatter pistol and kite him.
so i got virtually all states and DoT possibles... i should have changed to my scatter pistol and kite him.
Djena
Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:43 am
#8
You got beat fair and square by a more experienced PvP'er, don't expect to win your first PvP battle. I lost my first 5 PvP battles to be honest and still get hammered at times but mostly due to DOT's and not to the actual skill of my opponent.
Stunbattons aren't that horrible, the best counter against them is not wearing armor in my opinion. I never wear armor in PvP, this allows me to use my stomach for synthsteak and other lifesaving foods, instead of mindboosting foods to prevent mefrom mindincapping myself.
Fighting someone with 80-90% kinetic composite really hurts us but is not impossible, I've done it before. TK has a lot of very useful specials, you should rely on all of them instead of just dizzy/KD and mindhit. When I duel someone within the first 10s of the fight my opponent is stunned, dizzied, intimidated, blinded and hopefully lying on his back through the use of KD and if that fails posture down from lunge1. After that I start to work on his weakest pool which nowadays is not necessarily the mind, if you take into account full musician buffs, muon, brandy, ....
Djena
Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:52 am
#9
Now that I've read your full post (sorry about that 
) I think you should just have lasted for 10 mins because your opponent was hyped up on spice, after 10 mins his downer would have hit and he would have been yours. The hard part of course is lasting those 10 mins without being killed by his DOT's. 
) I think you should just have lasted for 10 mins because your opponent was hyped up on spice, after 10 mins his downer would have hit and he would have been yours. The hard part of course is lasting those 10 mins without being killed by his DOT's.
Co-valent
Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:10 am
#10
Djena wrote:
You got beat fair and square by a more experienced PvP'er, don't expect to win your first PvP battle. I lost my first 5 PvP battles to be honest and still get hammered at times but mostly due to DOT's and not to the actual skill of my opponent.
Stunbattons aren't that horrible, the best counter against them is not wearing armor in my opinion. I never wear armor in PvP, this allows me to use my stomach for synthsteak and other lifesaving foods, instead of mindboosting foods to prevent mefrom mindincapping myself.
Fighting someone with 80-90% kinetic composite really hurts us but is not impossible, I've done it before. TK has a lot of very useful specials, you should rely on all of them instead of just dizzy/KD and mindhit. When I duel someone within the first 10s of the fight my opponent is stunned, dizzied, intimidated, blinded and hopefully lying on his back through the use of KD and if that fails posture down from lunge1. After that I start to work on his weakest pool which nowadays is not necessarily the mind, if you take into account full musician buffs, muon, brandy, ....
You never wear Armour? You know if you have Musician Buffs (even on low Focus), and have Brandy set up so you can use 3, you don't have to worry about Mind costs.
I could never see anyone, except perhaps a Jedi, being able to PvP without Armour. A Rifleman would decimate an unarmoured opponent.
Shoot2Wound
Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:14 am
#11
only having kinetic damage sucks ass.
in PvP, TKMs are mostly used to land states, KD, and kill jedi. i
can stand there in my PvP gear and have 3 TKMs beat on me until we all have 1000 bf.
but if he's not wearing ALL of his armor hit him in the gaps.. leghit or combo2
you can beat him down for 20 minutes straight and all he has to do is use a StimB and there goes all your hard work. i suggest concentrating on the mind and keeping all the states on your opponent.
pickup master brawler if you have the points.
oh, and lately people have been getting DOT VKs off tuskens.
Shoot2Wound
Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:17 am
#12
how come noone ever uses ahrisa?
the way PvP is going, it's safer not to wear armor. jedi will rip you up if your in Adv. Comp.
Arafel_
Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:21 am
#13
Shoot2Wound wrote:
how come noone ever uses ahrisa?
the way PvP is going, it's safer not to wear armor. jedi will rip you up if your in Adv. Comp.
yeah.. cuz jedi always fight alone... they never have gank squads with them
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