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Thread: Is thre any reason NOT to use Vibroknucklers?

Lansonitore
Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:42 am
#1

In other words, is there any advantage to being turly "unarmed" or disadvantage to using the weapon?


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Greeblesnort
Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:53 am
#2

HAM costs.
Azralon
Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:02 pm
#3

Empty-handed, our special move HAM costs are very low. With VKs, they're rather high (though not as insanely high as they used to be).


I put my VKs away when I intend on tanking for a group -- that is, using only "debuff" specials rather than actually doing damage.


If I'm soloing, then I hotkey my VKs away during the knockdown/dizzy/warcry routine, then I equip them and spam the knocked-down target with Unarmed Hit 2 (since knocked-down targets take more damage).


If I'm beating on an empty lair, I'll equip my VKs, berserk,and then not do any specials. The VKs arejust a damage boost with no HAM cost at that point.


Your mileage may vary.




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NeutralMonk
Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:05 pm
#4

lunge
SlicerGirl
Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:24 pm
#5

Answer: to live Experiment with and without and you will see that at higher levels without VKs will help you stay in the fight much longer. As a TKM you attack so fast that if you spam UH3 with VKs, it will not be your enemy that kills you, it will be yourself committing suicide.



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Lansonitore
Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:34 pm
#6

Thank you for the responses.


I shall experiment with and without them.


-Lansonitore

razor007
Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:17 pm
#7

Didn't know were to ask this, so I'll put it here. How much does a Stry'ker VK cost? one with very good stats? how much are they a piece?
KaytSallow
Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:20 pm
#8

What's a Stry'ker vk ?




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TerasKasi_Mistress
Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:14 pm
#9

ap 1,all that needs to be said.




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Lomar4976
Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:08 am
#10

Stry'kers VKs are 5k a piece - but since this is the TKA forum and not the Eclipse forum, I think you've just confused a few dozen people.



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lammergeier
Wed Nov 12, 2003 5:21 am
#11

since you can use a musical instument, or a fishing pole, for your unarmed specials... well, whuppin people with your Daiwa Custom Pro is a lot more fun than fishing with it.



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cimianx
Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:09 am
#12

HAM cost and range. For me, VK's increase special move cost by 3x across the board...so, 1 hit with VK's costs the same as 3 hits without VK's. Secondly, VK's reduce your range by about 40% - this is a big deal in PvP or when chasing a mob, especially when you're trying to lunge.


VK's should be used when you want to kill something fast or when you need to penetrate armor. Otherwise, you're better off taking extra time but fighting unarmed (I mean that literally since your HAM bars will look like you've been through a meat grinder after spamming specials with VK's). Alternatively, you can obtain some MDD buffs (musician-dancer-doc) buffs and spam UA3 w/ VK's all night long though range would still be an issue.




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Aynsun
Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:20 am
#13

Only real annoying thing is range which is laughable 3m now, for ham costs I've adapted to live with it. Debuffing I'll do w/o vk's and then I'll either use berserk or ua2 and dont have any serious problems with hams.



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