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Thread: Teras Kasi has become almost as useless as pikeman
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AriesFusion
Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:18 pm
#1
I've been playing as a teras kasi since november and while I agree we were one of the best classes out there, with each new public we become more and more useless. We can't warcry anymore. Us master brawlers that had 30 second warcrys are shaking their heads, but now it doens't do anything. The composite armor trend and our ablility to do almost nothing against it makes it almost impossible to do anything except head hit our opponent until one of us dies. The only weapon against composite really is the stun baton, but even that is pretty useless against a guy with 3k+ stats. The teras kasi now are the ones who need a profession balance to make us the shock troops that we deserve to be. We need a way to punch THROUGH armor or at least some sort of armor peircing. Hell i'd be happy if they gave us warcry back. What do you guys think?
Takashi_Asukawa
Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:31 pm
#2
AriesFusion wrote:
I've been playing as a teras kasi since november and while I agree we were one of the best classes out there, with each new public we become more and more useless. We can't warcry anymore. Us master brawlers that had 30 second warcrys are shaking their heads, but now it doens't do anything. The composite armor trend and our ablility to do almost nothing against it makes it almost impossible to do anything except head hit our opponent until one of us dies. The only weapon against composite really is the stun baton, but even that is pretty useless against a guy with 3k+ stats. The teras kasi now are the ones who need a profession balance to make us the shock troops that we deserve to be. We need a way to punch THROUGH armor or at least some sort of armor peircing. Hell i'd be happy if they gave us warcry back. What do you guys think?
Since when does warcry1 not work? Seems to work just fine for me.
As for your other points, I am hopeful that the combat rebalance will goa long way to addressing them.
CptObvious
Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:02 pm
#3
yea we need a different damage type or armour piercing would mabye be more suitable
OnlyMaestro
Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:29 pm
#4
Pikeman actually with Mind Fire pikes can dominate the PvP battlefield.
For most realms of PvE TKA is unmatched, but we are perfectly balanced. Able to KD/Dizzy, heal own wounds, a sensible self buff, speed cap immense damage -- but are restricted to one damage type with AP1.
I'd take that any days. Everything will make more sense when armor is nerfed.
EmbracerOfDarkness
Tue Jun 15, 2004 11:51 pm
#5
"We can't warcry anymore. Us master brawlers that had 30 second warcrys are shaking their heads, but now it doens't do anything."
Usually works for me. 
"The composite armor trend and our ablility to do almost nothing against it makes it almost impossible to do anything except head hit our opponent until one of us dies."
As someone already said, this will hopefully be fixed in the rebalance, if they ever stop pushing it back. 
"The teras kasi now are the ones who need a profession balance to make us the shock troops that we deserve to be."
We're martial artists, not shock troops. There is a massive difference. 
"We need a way to punch THROUGH armor or at least some sort of armor peircing."
Welcome to "Combat 101: Weapons". You see that pointy little device alot of Teräs Käsi and Brawler players hold? It'd called a vibroknuckler, and it has *gasp* light armour peircing! Enjoy. 
McFlyGuy
Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:00 am
#6
Not nearly.. Just need to fix that damn overpowered armor and possibly make some of our specials do different damage.. I.E. Stun but do less damage..
Smuggler4ever
Wed Jun 16, 2004 1:13 am
#7
Hmm, that's odd, I regularly destroy opponents in PvP, and have for quite a while (i.e. before I was doc or stacker, just TKM). Exactly what tactics do you use? It takesa long time to win, but I don't see many people that stand up to TKM's often.
Equable_Dischord
Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:14 am
#8
Well another damage type would be nice, but other than that I am enjoying the TK Master immensely - especially when someone needs to throw meat at those insane bots in the Deathwatch Bunker. If you play the toon properly, you can keep pretty much anything focused on you while everyone else burns it down.
I don't think that Teras Kasi are a one trick pony, and the less attention we bring to ourselves the better.
I don't think that Teras Kasi are a one trick pony, and the less attention we bring to ourselves the better.
CarpaBob
Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:06 am
#9
I haven't tried Warcry in PvP lately but in PvE its definetly a complete waste these days, since its ability todelay a targets actions for 20 seconds is completely negated the moment you hit the target. Then there is the fact thats its a cone effect, which when you fighting a lair/npc/faction flag is useless as the other targets will be surrounding you,not queing up nicely behind your main target, so its not really any good at crowd control either.
Frankly they took the teeth out of Warcry when they changed it so that its effects were broken the moment a target was attacked, or am I mistaken and is Warcry still implemented the old way.
CarpaBob
Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:10 am
#10
Oh and can I just add as someone who has mastered and played Pikeman they aren't that useless. Get a good DOT pike, mixed in with AoE attacks that KD, apply status efects and a main single target attack that has a posture change thrown in. I found it to be quite a lot of fun, a lot more fun than Fencer which was just a crappy grind for me.
McFlyGuy
Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:17 am
#11
Warcry still has a nice use.. For example, warcry a groupof people then pick one off at a time... I'll let you guys have that one for free... Tacktix people... Ignorance leads to nerf calling...
RougeSoldier
Wed Jun 16, 2004 6:18 am
#12
I once dueld this guy in the buff line.We were both unbuffed.He was a commando. he was wearing 68% kinetic protection composite (like that cause it's a stun suit)He kneeled and i owned him in 3 hits.Sure, probaly cause he was unbuffed but damn.....
AriesFusion
Wed Jun 16, 2004 2:29 pm
#13
sorry about warcry, i heard it was just crowd control, i had no idea it still worked. That's the way i used to beat full composite guys, Kd2, hit with stun baton or mind hit, when they got up warcry, then by then your kd timer would be ready for another one and repeat. martial artists can break through boards, concrete, and i've been a few break rocks, why can't we puncture composite? lol
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