Teras Kasi Archive

OK guys, many of you know me by now and know my relentless crusade to get TKA where they should be.

I have met some other melee profession characters as of late and i have been doin missions with them to help them get XP off high level creatures. I like to help other people when I am online and invite people I dont even know quite frequently to join me in hunting, Mainly to help them get XP. This is the main reason for me wanting to start a Guild on the Kauri server.

I realize and know that all Melee classes are hurting in the area of defense and in the area of giving damage. I realize that unlike ranged attackers we must fight toe-to-toe and therefore we will ALWAYS suffer damage not only from animals but also by the ridiculous penalties we must suffer from our hardly ever used special moves.

I would like to however take some time to talk about the Pikemen. Bless their hearts guys they are so neglected! Go look at their post section, it is so pitiful it breaks my heart.

I am seeing less and less Pikemen in this game and it sadens me to see it. I think Pikemen deserve respect and adoration for sticking it out in such a hard and neglected profession. To see one of these guys come along carrying that beautiful, sleek lance with honor does my heart good. I really would like to ask you guys for some help in researching thier profession and making some suggestions in the Pikeman post area. Please help these guys.....In our forum we all spit and dispute and argue because we all have different views about where Teras is and where we should go from here. Many of you have ripped me a new one in these posts, which is cool, but guys......everyone of the Pikeman are all...i mean alll...discouraged, deeply.

They all say the same thing and no one can relly dispute them. Please help me to do one 2 things:

1. Post suggestions for their profession in their forum.

2. If you are on the Kauri server Please help me get the money to start a Guild for ALL melee professions. I know I wanted to have a Teras Guild just for Teras but now I dont know abou that anymore. I want to help people in this game that are stuggling and that means all Melee professions!

Please E-mail me in Game: my name is Lo'Pan. just send mail to (Lo') with the apostrophy. Help me start this guild to get brawlers, Pikemen and swordsmen together so we can help each other.

Lo'Pan

Kauri Server

Teras Artist 1-3-3-2

I am working my way to starting a dojo on Wanderhome. ALL profession are welcome that wish to train or learn about the Teras Kasi.

I see master pikeman quite frequently on Tattooine and Naboo, Rori as well. In all my travels on the game, my countless hours of playing in cantinas, training my unarmed skills and creature handling, I have seen almost every combat class mastery but one. Master gunfighters, bounty hunters, and rifleman seem to fill the area. TKA's, Pikeman, and carbineers are more and more rare. Swordsman are indeed a rarity. But in all my travels since the begining of this last summer I have never met a master fencer. Nor seen one. I would hope with the fixed stun batons I'd get the chance to meet one.

I have a friend that used to be in fencing, he said that at one time there where only 5 masters on the SoE boards. Period. I'd hope the number has grown. I find it stupid that the class of Fencer has only one sword in their weapon selection. And it is obtained at one hand 2. I'm of the opinion they need to give the Fencer the option to use a sword or rename the class to "Cop".

"I am seeing less and less Pikemen in this game and it sadens me to see it. I think Pikemen deserve respect and adoration for sticking it out in such a hard and neglected profession."

Go back a few weeks and read the Pikeman boards. A few of those folks were the most most vocal about nerfingTKs and KD because they got whooped by TKs in duels. Kinda like you and that whole Commando thing. They got their wish.

Of course, once the nerf bat hit and it affected their area KD, they started singing a different tune.

Call me a hateful man for holding a grudge

I must say, that when I mastered brawler, the very easiest was the Polearm tree. Beat up gnorts with a combat staff until you can wield a long vibro-axe, and now I can just destroy anything with that polearm. I like the polearm, but I don't have uber respect for any one profession just because it's rarely seen. [shrug] It took me *maybe* 4 hours to go from 1-4 in polearm, while it took about 12 hours (over days) to get 1H and 2H.

I read the next patch notes, looks like melee special moves are getting their ham costs removed. Thank goodness.. Polearm Hit 1 damaged me more than "get hit by a nightsister 1".

two words: light saber

how is a jedi going to weild a light saber without being master pikemen, swordsman, or fencer? comon guys there won't be any TK jedi, so stop comparing TK to pikeman and so on.

I can tell you this much when you open you Force sensitive slot you will either start new skills and pick up sword fighting or I beleive you will and must already have it. Alot of devs are hinting on the fact that you may have to master all the professions (not Elite professions) before you can even open the slot so....Yes a TK may become a Jedi.

Personally I do not know how bad the pikeman profesion is but let me tell you what I ve seen:

Just some time last week, I was still unarmed 4, I was doing Jabba missions and some hunting with a novice swordsman and a polearm 3 character. In several ocasions we engaged Valarian thughs, weak mercenaries (notthing weak about them) etc. To me it seemed that the only person really doing any damage was the pikeman and he had the lowest skill level of all. He was taking thugs in 2 maybe three hits. In the meantime Im half way through my ham bars, not to mention the swordsmans.

All melee classes need help. I just dont think (could be wrong) pikeman have it as bad as they say.

In another ocassion I saw a character preety high in the pikeman branch, using a vibro lance and just cruising through all the missions. The funny thing is that he had stromy comandos to back him up, but he never used them, because they were too slow for him when mooving around. I saw him take three or four opponents at the same time fairly easy and without using many specials. I also could not help him because I had not declared a faction yet. After fighting 3 oponents he had more than half his ham bars. Now when I do that being a novice TKA, maybe I beat all 3 not sure about 4, My hams are incredibly low and im about to incap mysel. Not only that but many times I have my rock beetle helping me and Im still sufering.

So, personally I do not think pikeman have it to bad. At least in PvE, PvP might be a diferent story. If, i were to change profesions right now, I would drop TKA for Pikeman (before any other melle prof). It not only looks cool but the damage they can cause is insane.

Then again, my knowledge of PM is not very extense.

fencer was the easiest skill to level up in the brawler tree that i have tried so far, TKA is definetly the most time consuming, not so much hard.

I have no idea about higher level fencers, but One-Hand Lv2 is a joke....i got my vibro blade first thng and was doing upwords of 900 damage per hit...with positve accuracy modifiers(oh, lord that feels nice)...at 3.0 speed. so that was nice. But if that is as good as it will eer be then that's no good, but if I were to get up to the speed cap doing 500-900 damage PER hit....that'd be huge.

TKA isn't so bad, but i am awares of its early on restrictions and am not pushing it too hard...i am taking out lairs with it usually while my pike takes what ever come out of them, but it is comming along nicely....you can't wear VK well till novice but even now with them on i do 80% of the damage at 4 times the speed, and i STILL did better at fencer Lv2....Vibro Blades are niiiiiicceeeeee.

as for pikeman, i dare not instigate anything or say anything negative about my class. Except,I think pikman most dire needs are 2 things.

Accuracy-Even if they lower our DPS....we need better accuracy. The problem is is we can never judge what we can take...we can kill a red con(SERIOUS LUCK...but not impossible if all the hits are high end and to the same stat and we don't miss more than once or twice)...or....we can get incapped by a group of light blues, becouse our arra attacks like everything else miss some 50% of the time. and our HAM costs are 200-300 a move, wich many people would be fine with if they had some idea if they were gonna miss the next five swings or miss.

And Defense- first off, i am using TKAs as an example becouse they are the most opposite and easy to contrast from pikeman, don't get angry at me and trust me, i don't want anything taken from you guys, i just want us beefed up......okay....in PvP, EVERY TIME i fight a TKA who is of any reasonable level, their high defense makes pikeman worthless. The TKA defense compares to the pikeman in such a way that if i use my 131-470dam axe and hit. The TKA will do more damage to me 'per-hit', than i will to him 'per-hit', couple that with we are much slower, and miss at least 50% of the time no matter what weapon i am using(yeah), and ever time i do a special i do 200-300 damage to myself, and the TKA can do more status effects and can knock down/dizzy me no problem but even if i did it to them, they would be back up ina flash anyway...its just too much....TKAs are for fast status effection pricise attacks. Pikeman SHOULD have a much higher damage per second to compinsate for the rest, and in PvE i think we do(unless we have especially bad luck) but in PvP we can't touch TKA becouse they have such higher defense, we should have a great deal more defense to direct damage....couse a t TKA doing more damage to me each hit than i do to him each hit i'm sure even you easy to flame types would have to agree is not right.

oh...and i am a 4/2/4/3 pikeman and 3/4/0/4 brawler....and i plan on becomeing a master tka fencer and pikeman

Tis is probably not the place to say it, and perhaps my opinion means nothing since it will never make a change, but :

I think MTKA should be an elite elite profesion.

I think TKA should be what in fact is a Master brawler. TKA should know how to defend themselves with all melee weapons. Once TKA, then we should climbthe branch to master. They should have some branch type of unarme dirty fighting to cover what tka is right now.

This way ranged profesions (comando and BH) could not complain about tka being as tough as they are, becausethey are are using many more skill points and its achieve their desiered profesion. Not, to mention that they think they are more skilled.So instead of 92 points we would be using 140 SP.

Perhaps this would also solve the problem of other classes comparing themselves with tka. For some reason people have a problem seing an unarmed profesion causing so much damage.

Anyways just some rambling thought that perhaps dont even apply to this post.

From what Ive seen Pikeman are really not that bad and my hide has been saved by them more than once.

well tka does seem to be the more powerfull melee class. I don't know why the others are so 'weak". but maybe a pikeman is better of wearing armor, while a TKA is better not wearing armor. I don't know. But if that isn't the case then yes they should improve the melee classes.

The pikemen I've met aren't all that weak. Its just their accuracy that is plain sad. And you see one do 5000 damage to prone stormtrooper then I doubt you'll complain about their damage being too low.

First off i can do 5k dmg to a prone rifleholding stormy with tka, pikemen need help period.

Now, i think the best fix to melee classis is to aplly unarme, one haded etc defence mod to all attacks period.

Also i laughed when i saw that riflemen had +20 melee defence i bet there thrilled since they take +250% melee dmg lol, who though up the combat balance in this game tie him to a rail and send him to blizzard with a letter of recomendation.

ilcoz