Teras Kasi Archive
Thread: TK Dead? Worth coninuing?
This starts to feel abit hopeless...anyone got some solution to the KD problem? Is there away to play TK without knockdown?
As it stands right now we are the worst class in the game. I am actually switching to either bounty hunter or commando since those are the only two classes that are good right now.
Pvp with this patched turned into one shot kill again and I rather be on a delivering end then recieving end. I can now outdamage a TKA with a pistol in face to face combat and btw I suck at the pistol skill.
Try facing me, close range, while I use berserk2 and my VK. You'll be surprised.
Some of you will appreciate the info, some won't. The only way I am effective is by diversifying my skills. But the net effect is, I'm still having fun doing what I wanted to do, and that patch really hasn't changed that too much.
Please don't flame -- I agree KD timer sucks, I agree that worse than the KD timer is the 5 second effectiveness of KD which is totally stupid, I agree that those changes are bad bad bad. But I'm still able to play.
And I'll tell you want use, when I go up the doctor line and can buff myself for 2000 points for a hour (yes that is possible) I am going to be a pretty tought customer.
Once again my real issue. Its great for you master brawlers out there. Apparently the moves achieved there are the ones I need to solo yellows. But what if we don't have the skill points for master brawler AND master TKA?
When i first started playing at release I choosed Bounty hunter, so I owned everyone in PvP with 1 shoot 1 kill. It was really fun, and I had my time PvPing, really unbalanced and so on. Well i got tired of it and I wanted to try on the PvE aspect so i REMOVED my Expert Bounty Hunter.
I worked really hard, and spent alot of CASH, reaching TKA. Since the only class able to single the powerfull NPCs was TKM as far I know (CH doesnt come near).
Well as I just got KD yesterday I was very happy, I thought my investment would pay off.
Here comes the nerf.
I'm now considering deleting my TKA, I understand you who already are Masters keep it, but is it really worth spending ALOT of time reching master?
After the patch I went out with a LARGE hunting party, got killed 3 times by a punani Droideka.
As I pistoleer I could single droideka as novice.
It just feel like the taken 80-90% of the power of TK.
I never thought TK was good in PvP, and that is not was I was looking for, but this nerfed destroy the chance to any desant PVE character.
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It seem to me that most people who are complaining about the new patch were those who depended on knockdown too much. I think it is much better now. I knock down once - maybe - per mob. I have a lot more fun chaining together my special moves - for massive damage - and getting to watch the cool animations we have. Sure that gets old. But our animations are 10 times better than any other class.
If you're unsatisfied with the new patch, try not using knockdown at all and try using some of your other specials more. I'm a Human TK 1/3/4/2 and I do 1400 dmg with unarmed hit 2. That makes me smile.
Raam
My thoughts on this since I was grinding or doing anything too strenuous. . .post patch I'm seeing different combat dynamics but not necessarily that much different results.
Before the patch I could take on single MOB's with a bit of effort by KD1 them once the effect ended. . .no big deal, just chip them away slowly (but had to use few specials)
Now, KD1 isn't as effective (hehe, might be an understatement), but now I can use KD1 with my VK's on and *gasp* spam a few Unarmed Hit 2's to take them down quite a bit and finish the fight off much faster. End result is my health and action are drained (mind at same level as using KD1), but I can stim the damage and meditate when I need mind back up.
Net result, I use some specials now and fights are much shorter.
-JorrDoomslayer
Scylla (Doctor/TKA)
**edit** edit button (lack there of). . .I was NOT grinding. ![]()
I kill gurnasets if I see them. . .thinking about taking on some squills now that I've actually killed one on my own. . .but definitely no grinding.
-Jorr
For those of you considering dropping Teras Kasi...please read this carefully.
I not too long ago was in the same position you were at due to always being kited in PvP. I have recently learned that it was only my own thinking and strategies that werent "up to snuff"
I will not sugar coat this...being a Teras Kasi is difficult, but VERY rewarding.
I am currently a Teras Kasi Master and was lucky enough to level up on such things as baz nitches, and nyms before they were changed, and before the knockdown timer was set.
For those of you training as a Teras Kasi, have hope and stay strong, when you hit master you will bepowerful in deed. I will demonstrate by sharing with you my activities last night...
I hooked up with a friend of mine last night to learn his strategies in PvP becuase i was tired of getting slaughtered as a Teras Kasi Master / Master CH by novice marksman with troopers. My bud (well call him bud) is also a TKM / MCH. Him and I talked for awhile and shared our concerns and strategies, especially reguarding this recent patch.
We practiced some things and decided that it was time to go out and test our PvP skills. We started in coronet and went overt...no enemies in sight...so we headed to Moenia...again no fun red dots to play with.
We then headed the Theed...enemy capital in our galaxy. We cloned and quickly went to work...to make a long story shot we defeated MANY enemies. I think our total kill count was 20-25 kills. This counts multiple kills of the same people and faction pet kills. We finally decided that i was time to retreat when the ATST's decided to come out and play ![]()
We took out gunman, CH's, a person with Assult troopers(OW! Fire and Grenades are very powerful whew!) and more. Our arsinal consisted of Me, my gurreck, bud, and his 3 greater wrixes We used the pets mostly for storm and other faction troopers, and took on the playersby ourselves.
I quickly descoverd that when played with the right strategies, we were very, very powerful. WE CLEANED HOUSE IN THEED, it was great (well before the chicken walkers came out, lol
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Each person i got close to died in no more than 2 hits. NONE of these hits ever included knockdown. I did use knockdown for troopers though...well, becuase them flamethrowers are NASTY ![]()
When all was said and done, we came out on top. Just imagine if other Teras Kasi Masters had been with us...wow. All of this was done with NO buffs by the way, all natural.
TheTeras Kasi Art is in no way dead, or even close, and is worth every moment of training.
2 months into the game and i just learned that. Thank you friend for your advice, and the chance to fight beside you, assisting the rebellion. It was an Honor to say the least. /bow4
I guess I am not understanding.
1400 damage with unarmedHit2? I amlizard TKA 2,4,4,3 and get 900 to 1300 with unarmedhit2.
The knockdown1/2 timer is 0 secnds for me. I can get maybe 1 or 2 hits in before I get hit.
Iuse to be able to take mountain squills solo, so tried after patch with several different stratigies. None worked solo. Tried knockdown, no knowcdown, multiple hit2s, with and without VKs. used dizzy, warcry, intimidate, blind to no overall affect. I still died. The difference was whether I got incapped 1 or 2 times first. The only thing that works for me is a lvl22 pet and lots of stim-B (356). Gave up pistoleer to get meditate II, now thinking of getting it back.
Got incapped by 2 mountain dewbacks, blue cons. First time ever.
Continue to TKM, probably as I am close enough. Is it worth giving up master scout and most of the scout tree to get it? I don't kow. Already gave up Pistoleer, as I said, Master Marksman and all carbine, rifle and ranged skillsand 2,3,3,3 Ranger to TKA, CHand medic. CH because I cannot solo (somewhat of a hermit) and medic because I take so much damage. If it gets any worse? I just don't know. Have mastered most basic professions (except entertainers) and gave most everything up for TK. It was suppose to be HARD but very rewarding as it was to be the kick-butt profession. I would have no problem with the dev's making it harder to get. But stop making me a wussie. And I do not PvP(layer), PvNCP so the range issue does not come up that often and I can usually bait the NPC.
Sry, just had to get it out. Would appreciate any positive comments or suggestions on how to proceed.