Tailor Archive
Thread: No BE Clothing!!!
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Urgra
Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:33 pm
#1
Ok, now that the subject got your attention, let me explain.
I started the tailor profession because I like clothes -- no, I LOVE clothes. I also know that many players want to role-play or have different outfits for various occasions. Tailoring wasn't my first profession, but honestly I was half-way up before I heard of BE clothing and sockets. Until that time I was making clothesfor fun!
When I hit master for some reason Istarted getting a lot of requests forthings like+25 doc outfits with four sockets, no design or color preferances. Errr!
So, I spent time learning about BE stuff (boring),buying BE tissues (expensive and time consuming) and making the same outfit 5 times to get the four socketsfor the client. Thiswas not fun at all!
Then, I thought, "Oh, I will just becomea BE/Tailor and make my own tissues. Yuck! I hated BE within a few days of picking DNA off of Kadoo (the plural is the same as the singular, right? Like deer?). So, then I worked my tail off to get a BE into the guild. Well, he is cool and all, but I really hate working according to someone else's time table. What I loved about tailor was having several factory crates of all my stuff and being able to *BAM* whip out a full set of clothing in the middle of a starport. hehe
So, now I have decided I will make no more BE clothing unless the customer brings me the tissues or BE cloth him or herself. I have a couple of million credits stashed away so I am not afraid if business dies. I just want to make clothes for people who want a cool looking outfit.
Am I the only one that doesn't like to make the BE stuff?
-- Chyann
P.S. I am not at all saying that I think that BE stuff shouldn't exist, just that I don't like making it.
Message Edited by Urgra on 11-15-2004 03:35 PM
Akaara
Mon Nov 15, 2004 4:49 pm
#2
I enjoy making BE clothes... it's fun for me and that is how I make most of my credits.
I like making Mask Scent/Camo/Taming clothes... they sell like hotcakes.
I like making outfits for Medics and Dancers too... matching pants, shirts and jackets boots and gloves
Shyloche
Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:24 pm
#3
I invested several million credits a few months ago to get BE tissues and run factory crates of the stuff so I could make a lot. I quickly learned that unless someone really wanted something different (medic healer's robe) they weren't about to spend the money on something requiring stacked tissues. (At least not the customers I ran across). I love making clothes, and designing outfits for people and I do it for fun and a little bit of money. I think BE modded stuff is pretty cool, but it is too big a hassle for me personally to maintain a product for customers, or even to do customs. When my stuff runs out, I think I won't make any any more. The two things that make it the most distasteful are the customers who think I am somehow a poor tailor because I don't have +18 stun defense mods, and those who want 4 sockets. I don't worry about sockets either and I just want to make people look good.
Khristen
Mon Nov 15, 2004 7:59 pm
#4
I have access to a friend's account who is a MBE, but I have yet to really make any BE clothing. It is a bore, at least for me, and I've always done a great business without having BE clothing. I don't really get requests for it, either.
The most important thing is that you make what you like to make. I know many master crafters and usually try to refer people to them if I can't/won't/don't have time to make what they want. People remember the kindness just as much as if you were able to fill the order for them in many cases.
Vastar
Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:05 pm
#5
I really got into the BE stuff. I've since decided to give up my vendors all together though. I found I was spending more time explaining how the BE stuff worked than I was making sales. ...I mean, if I wanted to spend all my time explaining and not making a huge profit, I'd just be a Droid Engineer. 
Dag_Benhameen
Mon Nov 15, 2004 8:53 pm
#6
I'll admit not only do I make BE clothes, it's almost exclusively what I do now. Of course, to start with, I have the advantage of my own personal BE via a second account. My alt is MBE/MTK so I can easily harvest all the creature resources that I need which makes everything almost too easy. Plus, I actually find BE quite fun, though I pretty much only make tissues and ignore cloning entirely -- guess that part never really interested me either (after you grind it, you don't have to sample DNA again if you dont want 
).
).At my peak of tailoring interest I had a shop with 5 vendors where I regularly stocked in the neighborhood of 1300 items. But I think I just burned myself out... some on tailoring (pretty much became a second job for a while there), but almost on the whole game too. So I decided to go into semi-retirement and try to take a step back. The easiest and most obvious choice was just to sell BE clothes. It allows me to make a decent amout of money with relatively little effort. I also keep a fully stocked wookiee vendor still but more as a public service at this point (heh) since I rarely make sales anymore (but someone's gotta stand up for the wearably challenged wooks of Sunrunner).
Of course I'd love people to buy things besides black formitting undershirts but there's not much I can do to influence that, unfortunately. Most of those people are just wearing it under their armor anyway so it's that or no clothes at all probably. /shrug
I certainly still enjoy doing special orders (BE or not) and trying to get the right look for someone, I think that's what draws most people to tailoring (it's certainly not the cash). I just do enjoy the BE and the combat sides of the game as well so they give me other fun things to do in addition to making clothes.
Sabrinaleena
Mon Nov 15, 2004 9:56 pm
#7
While I do enjoy making BE clothing, I get irritated at customers who demand four sockets on all of their garments. I don't think they truly understand how much it will affect their pocketbook, especially if I'm having an "off" day and have to plead to the Tailoring Goddess to "please let me have just a few four sockets...please!"
I did have one customer who told me to make everything on his BE order four sockets, and that he had two million to spend on it just for that purpose. I turned him down. It's just not worth 2 million monopoly money to sit there and grind out piece after piece for four sockets. It's frustrating!
So, while enjoying making BE clothing immensely, you won't find me agonizing over four sockets, that's for sure
Wire3k
Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:35 pm
#8
Sabrinaleena wrote:
While I do enjoy making BE clothing, I get irritated at customers who demand four sockets on all of their garments. I don't think they truly understand how much it will affect their pocketbook, especially if I'm having an "off" day and have to plead to the Tailoring Goddess to "please let me have just a few four sockets...please!"
I did have one customer who told me to make everything on his BE order four sockets, and that he had two million to spend on it just for that purpose. I turned him down. It's just not worth 2 million monopoly money to sit there and grind out piece after piece for four sockets. It's frustrating!
So, while enjoying making BE clothing immensely, you won't find me agonizing over four sockets, that's for sure
Tell your friend that only 6 effects can exist on any particular piece of clothing. While some pieces/bio mods can indeed use 4 sockets - if there are more than two types of biomods on an article (and most have two - like medic - single mod but with two effects) - not only is 4 sockets unnecessary, they are unuseable.
HippieKender
Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:27 pm
#9
I actually enjoy making BE clothing. I do BE clothing mostly as custom orders, and don't have much stocked on my vendors. This keeps me from getting burnt out on making BE, keeps it slow enough that I can save up more money to buy BE by the time I run out, and wearing the Master Tailor tag brings in enough custom orders to keep me happy.
In regards to the 4 sockets, I tell the customer that because it might take me a few tries to actually get 4 sockets, I expect them to cover costs of failed attempts (including the cost for all used BE - even in failed attempts). Most customers are willing to do this, and those that aren't can go bring the headache to another Tailor hehe.
Yes, most of the requests for BE clothing are melee/stun in a Formfitting Undershirt, usually in black (*yawn* boring!), but I am still surprised at the numbr of wookiees that don't know they can have BE clothing too.
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Urgra
Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:32 pm
#10
Thank you all for responding with your experiences. If there is anyone on Bria that really likes making BE stuff, let me know (here or in-game) and I will refer those customers to you. I really hate to tell people that I cannot help them and I don't know whocan.
I am not looking for referrals from others because my physical therapist (for carpol tunnel) told me I shouldn't play more than a few hours a week. When I described the grind to master tailor, he just about shot me -- hehe.
Thanks again!
Chyann
DathoImilli
Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:44 pm
#11
You're not alone. The first time I was asked to do a BE item, I told them to wait a sec while I checked how to do it. I read the boards for about 15 seconds then came back and told them "Nope I don't do BE clothes, check with Gennie."
If I wanted to screw around with that complicated stuff I'd be filthy rich selling weapons or armor. I just like mixing colors and making people look good.
Gyopi
Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:49 pm
#12
I have to admit that making BE clothes is usually not much fun unless it is for an entertainer or doctor who wants a creative outfit. Most of the time its a matter of putting on the ugly tailoring suit and making some clothes in black or white with BE tissues. If they have 3 or more sockets make a schematic and if not try again. Its not much fun, but it pays the bills for all of that maintentnce I have to pay. The fun tailoring is at my boutique where I can make anything I want and people come in for special orders (if they don't get turned overt and killed by the stormtroopers in Kaadara). I do have to say that making the *tissues* for BE clothes is kind of fun. Its complicated enough to be challenging, but not so complicated that you have to worry about whether some obscure gemstone has spawned on some planet where I know I will die if I set foot there.
nurTsunami
Tue Nov 16, 2004 8:05 pm
#13
I don't make BE clothes in any kind of quantity. Mostly I'll grab some cheapy tissues off the bazaar and make some cheap clothes to toss back on the bazaar for some newbs to get for cheap to keep my skills sharp and give back to the community
Its my great hope (and BE's too I'd imagine) that we get a bunch of new tissues to put in clothes. Right now they aren't real useful outside of the doc/entertainer/ranger rings, but if we had tissues for increasing crafting abilities, or more combat uses, or other skill improvements for other professions, I would probably dedicate myself to them more. I'd still like for tissues to be of equal standing more or less with SEA clothing attachments to give BE's some more use and us some more cool clothes to sell
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