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Thread: Oppressive texturing that makes colors not take well

NJ62
Mon Mar 15, 2004 8:46 am
#1










Some items have texturing that makes blacks not look black, whites not look white, and everything in the middle come out all weird. My preliminary list is as follows, and I'm in the process of taking screenies of items that don't color well:


The following items look "washed out" in dark colors


  • high quality boots

  • simple vest

  • rugged jacket - too shiny and distorts the colors.

The following items look "dirty" in light colors



  • suit jacket

  • flex form & muscle shirts

  • infiltration suit/ leggings. They look dirty in every color. This is a huge pet peeve.

  • wookiee sage's hood

  • wookiee decorative waist wrap

  • thin striped pants

  • low cut topshoulder trim

  • mercenary bandolier

  • dress shoes

  • leather gloves

  • heavy leather gloves

  • shoulder parts of cold weather jacket (always darker than rest of jacket).

  • desert command jacket (main part). Also this is problematic because it is in the leather palette (which is being addressed in the "color" thread)

  • bone crest (leather part)

  • dress uniform jacket shoulders

Other Concerns



  • Noble's skirt: Peach portions on the sides will not color, making the skirt look ugly in most light colors, and many dark colors

  • decorative dress:overly aggressive texture makes the bottom portion look like ugly, ripped fishnet instead of 'decorative'

Care to add to the list?



Edit: continually adding to the list, as well as split the items into different categories.


Message Edited by NJ62 on 03-17-2004 08:55 AM



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SueDenim
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:00 am
#2

The "leather" bit on the Doctor's Dress is a little strange, in a way I haven't seen much. Black and White actually look fine - it's "grey" that's actually weird! Colors 1-3 of the "black" scale look really odd and off-color, but the darkest of the "white" scale looks OK as a grey. Not all that big a deal - more an oddity than a huge problem.



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Gyopi
Mon Mar 15, 2004 9:36 am
#3

Thin striped pants just do not look good in white (they are gray) because of the thin stripes on the main fabric. When people ask for thin striped pants in white, I always ask if they would like striped slacks instead since they look very simillar (different belt and pockets in the back are the main things) and they can actually be made white. The other one that people ask for all the time is soft undershirt. I don't see any texturing on it, but it always comes out gray.







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Akaara
Mon Mar 15, 2004 10:50 am
#4

I have no idea where this belongs but the pallette options for hot pants and metal bikini tops SHOULD be the same! I don't understand where texture would really come into play on these items though.



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Syzygy-Gorath
Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:18 am
#5

Trim color for the low-cut top doesn't take to white at all.

Body color for the metal bikini takes all colors…oddly.

Most bandoliers (mercenary for sure) have very dark undertones that turn most colors applied to them into yuck.



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Drazic
Mon Mar 15, 2004 12:37 pm
#6

Most Wookie items don't color well. I have always assumed this was due to the "leather" texture. What is really odd though, is that when you make some of them white, they have a greenish tinge, as if there was moss growing on the item...
most of the short gloves have the same color troubles as all leather items, white looks grey. I have seen tanned leather in a beautiful bright white, so why are we so poor at tanning?

of course, I am of the mind that Master Tailors should be given a wider pallete range on ALL items, not just the ones that are designed as "fabric" vs. leather. I also wish the metal colors were more clear. If you shine up a piece of aluminum and then apply a blue color to it, you are going to get a vibrant blue, not a dull blue that looks like it was applied over pewter...

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NJ62
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:04 pm
#7

Thanks for all the feedback! Keep it coming!





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ZahrIna
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:24 pm
#8

Rugged Jacket: The shiney texture makes it impossible to match most items using the same color on the palette. It usually comes out ligher or just plain off.


Cold weather Jacket: It has a leather type fabic on the shoulders that we can use the entire palette on, unfortunately the colors are far richer and darker than what you see on any other items.,.. then the jacket portion itself is usually lighter than the color intended.


I'm all for having all leather items available in all colors..... it would be nice if we could get them matching though.


Thanks for all th hard work!



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Dazzire
Mon Mar 15, 2004 2:31 pm
#9


Desert Command Jacket.


The trim can be all colors and is fine, but the main part of the jacket as very limited leather colors and come out looking like it just came down a soot filled chemney.





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PerilousWish
Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:48 pm
#10


  • decorative dress: overly aggressive texture makes the bottom portion look like ugly, ripped fishnet instead of 'decorative'

  • nobel skirt:the peach pannels will not allow other colors to adhear properly, thus giving everything a peach hue





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Alciril
Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:25 am
#11

Dress shoes! The base color is always black and only the highlights can be changed. I'd love to be able to make these in white.


Ironically, dress shoes are horrible when paired up with dress slacks. Has anyone else noticed that using dress slacks with dress shoes exposes your ankles? It's tacky and the same problem doesn't happen when you use the dress shoes with comfortable slacks.



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RSteeler
Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:32 am
#12


The mercenary Bandolier is often too dark to color. Everything looks near-black and the white comes out a dark grey.


I don't see a problem with infiltration suits. The texture there is intentional and the whites still look very white to me.





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Kwee
Tue Mar 16, 2004 1:39 am
#13

Casual shoes have serious issues. The colorsoverlap each other which is a pity because they're so cute and it really limits your color choices




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