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Thread: Rich players, skill tapes, depressed

Akaara
Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:04 pm
#1

I keep seeing auctions for clothing, like gloves with +8 to some weapons skills selling for like 15 to 30 million credits!!!


They probably buy OUR socketed items, then put the tape in and resell it for a huge, huge profit.


Where are the skill tapes dropped from, are they really rare and should I start charging higher prices for socketed items??


Think about this.. us tailors make the socketed clothing, the hunters buy them from us without a sweat and then they make all the profit, and we get what?


Maybe its just me but it seems a tad unfair. I struggle daily just to find enough BE tissues for the BE clothing. Something is amiss somewhere.




_____Chiana_________________________
JEDI ELDERCL 90

Sying ~ Master Entertainer

Nikeesha YMaster Tailor

Songe
Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:11 pm
#2

Tapes are rare drops off NPCs. They are often auctionned for a lot even without the clothes really. Actually they prolly sell for more without clothes. About charging more for socketted clothes, really sockets are pretty useless as the max number of mods you can use per outfit is 6 anyway.



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Akaara
Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:17 pm
#3

So I should get a second account, make a fighter and then I can find the tapes, the rare milk, mollusk and other items for BE tissues to help my tailor.


I can't help it... I feel a sense of doom for the professions I love. Tailoring and merchant. Not sure why...




_____Chiana_________________________
JEDI ELDERCL 90

Sying ~ Master Entertainer

Nikeesha YMaster Tailor

FloridianJen
Sun Jan 11, 2004 7:53 pm
#4



Akaara wrote:

I keep seeing auctions for clothing, like gloves with +8 to some weapons skills selling for like 15 to 30 million credits!!!

They probably buy OUR socketed items, then put the tape in and resell it for a huge, huge profit.

Where are the skill tapes dropped from, are they really rare and should I start charging higher prices for socketed items??

Think about this.. us tailors make the socketed clothing, the hunters buy them from us without a sweat and then they make all the profit, and we get what?

Maybe its just me but it seems a tad unfair. I struggle daily just to find enough BE tissues for the BE clothing. Something is amiss somewhere.






We should start charging more Chiana....mwahhhhahaha...

I'm up for that



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glidingpiglet
Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:41 pm
#5

lol.


I welcome you to try to find those nice skill tapes.


I'll give you a likely path you will follow.


!. get some gun skills.


2. Kill things.


3. Realize the drops are pathetic, Get rather frustrated and wonder where the heck they found those tapes at.


OK, reality check for you. As much as you, who gained "skill" by sitting in a room with crafting tool think killing the tough beasts is easy. it is not.


You will die, repeatedly.


Your cloths are worth less than you realize. Those tapes are worth tons because they are very, very rare.


Your cloths are very, very common.


You will not understand why the tapes cost so much untill you try to kill yourself.


Good luck, you will need it.


If you would like a idea of what to expect as far as loot goes, look in my shop at 640 -5740, near Coronet on Sunrunner.


The skill tapes and armor attachments repersent ALL I've found, I've played from July. There are few tapes and very few worth using.


I could have made every item you can make in tailor many times over in the time it took to find those tapes.


Your products have little value, deal with it.


BTW, I was a commando/CH, and very strong, but before you get your panties in a uproar, I am a merchant now, I gave up most of my combat skills atm.


I'm sorry if I don't feel sympath for you. But crafting profs are pathetic.Very easy to master, requiring no skill.


Want a real challange? Try one of the gimped combat classes, I know one well. I will never forgive that Holo for Pike.


Just so you don't try to blast me as a failed merchant....# days after bus 3 in artisan, sales in my shop 1,000,000+, profits 750k+. Merchant is pathetic too. I only need to earn enough to grind a few more profs than i'll drop it too.


Stop complaining till you actually try other profs.

chinesewaterboy
Sun Jan 11, 2004 11:58 pm
#6

ive been through combat professions man, tailor is a much harder effort, with a small group of a TKM an MBH and a commando with flame you can take down basically anything (oh and a healer), but not everyone has the time or patience to grind out master tailor


oh and btw, merchant doesnt cost you a penny to master, tailor does, spent 1million to master tailor and another million just for the parts to be of any use to anyone, stop trashing the tailors, we dont make much money in the first place


and yes, ive camped these spawn points before, and yes its boring and tedious waiting for a drop but try clicking millions of times to get to master tailor, my sympathy goes out to chiana and the other tailors who gave up the chance to kill to help the people of the star wars galaxies community (just gave up master carbineer and master CH for image designer and tailor, i feel your pain chiana haha)




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chinesewaterboy
Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:01 am
#7

oh and when u say gimped classes, pikeman isnt one of them, a master pikeman is one of the strongest classes, so the grind has a payoff


i ground out master carbineer and wasnt much stronger than a 0-0-4-0 marksman with a good powerup




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Crudson
Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:11 am
#8

If people are selling clothes with big bonuses in I expect that the clothing is loot, with the stat built in. These have no sockets and are always not 100% condition.


The big money sellers are experimentation ones, as something like +15 to experimentation for a skill will give a crafter one extra experimentation point.


I tend to see higher stats on SEAs rather than looted clothing. Someone was selling one with two +24 stats the other day that fetched a sick price. However unlike the olden days high point SEAs only drop from the tough end mobs nowadays.




Smi
Crudson
Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:13 am
#9

...but good modded clothing will drop from lower things...Tuskens, Aakuans etc...




Smi
Akaara
Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:15 am
#10






Crudson wrote:

If people are selling clothes with big bonuses in I expect that the clothing is loot, with the stat built in. These have no sockets and are always not 100% condition.





Oh... I see! thanks



_____Chiana_________________________
JEDI ELDERCL 90

Sying ~ Master Entertainer

Nikeesha YMaster Tailor

Akaara
Mon Jan 12, 2004 5:20 am
#11

glidingpiglet,


I have indeed tried other professions and have fought quite a bit actually but I enjoy tailoring. I also was not whining, I was simply trying to figure out how I could make some big money. But I guess the skill tapes just don't drop often. Makes me wish I had held onto the skills tapesI had at the beginning of the game!!


I also make more money as a tailor/merchant than I do hunting and fighting plus I enjoy it so much more.




_____Chiana_________________________
JEDI ELDERCL 90

Sying ~ Master Entertainer

Nikeesha YMaster Tailor

donnah42
Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:02 am
#12

Just so everyone knows, the skill tapes aren't all that hard to get, they're just tedious. They may take a little scout/marksman skill, but you don't have to be a really high level combatant to get at least a few of them. So someone like our oh-so-pleasant "Your products have little value, deal with it." friendis probably just camping spawn points. He is not killing millions of creatures for every single skilltape he finds. A lot of folks that are selling them try and pretend that they're doing oh so much work to get them, and they also want to keep their favorite spawn points a secret so there's less competition. There is at least one spawn point I heard of that requires very little fighting, just a lot of waiting around and racing all the other campers to the piles you search when they respawn. I don't remember where that is, but I heard about it on the boards so it may or may not be accurate. The tapescan also be found in piles of debris and bones in just about any of the caves I've been to, you just have to find a cave with lower level creatures...


I have actually mask-scented my tailor (when she was at Pistol 2) into the bottom of one of the caves and come out with 6-7 low bonus skill enhancers. Of course, I died on the way out, but that way I had the tapes and a free ride back to the shuttleport. And it seems that the loot respawns sooner than the creatures, because I walked into a different one that was empty, and the containers had no loot while I was going in, but had refilled with tapes while I walked out.


You will also find armor enhancers that go into armor and not clothing. Armorsmiths often buy these, or you could try putting them on a vendor or auctioning them on your sever trade forums.


Also keep an eye on the bazaar, many +1 and +2 tapes end up there, they just sell quickly. Auctions on the boards are one of the best ways to sell high-bonus tapes, I found a +7 one recently that I auctioned for over a million credits. It actually made me a little sad, that I'd been tailoring this long andonly hit big money by auctioning off stupid loot...


Ah, and for all you tailors who are interested in the skill tape business, it's best to make a vendor that sells them seperately, or just to auction them. The value of the tapes actually go down when placed in clothing, because most customers would rather choose what they want to drop them in. And with all the gender and species restrictions, a wookiee may really be interested in that tape but not be able to wear the item you put it in.


Also, the multi-bonus skill tapes currently do not work correctly. I've heard various things, but the most common is that you get the highest bonus on the tape, and if there are two equal ones, you get the bonus that is first in alphabetical order. However I've also heard that you get the first alphabetical bonus no matter what the amounts of the bonuses are. And putting more than one bonus of the same type into a piece of clothing also doesn't stack. You get the benefit of the largest bonus skill tape, the other is just useless. So if you drop a +3 and a +2 into one piece of clothing, you only get +3. So put that second tape into a different piece of your outfit!


Hope that helps a little for those wanting to know more about skill tapes.


Of course the really funny thing is that I've found several tapes with bonuses to "clothing experimentation." *sigh*




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BristaAB
Mon Jan 12, 2004 8:50 am
#13

I pick up a few every now and then, there are boxes at most POI dungeons. Just look in your datapad. The ewok ritualist cave on Endor is full of nice ewoks who wont attack. (Presumably it is possible to get on their wrong side by getting negative faction so dont take the Commandos if you decide to visit)




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