Tailor Archive
Thread: Armorsmiths seem to WANT us to make the componants
I am afraid that reliance of professions on each other is one of the fundamental principals of the game. Personally I think it makes things a lot more interesting, and I expect it to become more evident rather than less. Many changes of late show this, in both supplying and relying on another profession, for examplesupplying synth cloth for fire blankets or requiringwarheads for the demolitionist belt.
The_One18 wrote:
Armorsmiths actually want tailors to make the components? I highly doubt that, being a master armorsmith myself, I hate the fact that I will have to depend on someone else to make a key component for a set of armor. The fact that you have to experiment on it annoys me even more. IfI'm the one supplying the ingredientsfor the schematic, as well as runnning theit in my own factories,why shouldI then haveto pay through the nose for the schematic?Sorry, not to offend, thats just my opinion on the matter.
-Axe
Wookiee Master Armorsmith
Akaara wrote:
AS's seems to want tailors to make their componants.
So if this goes through... make it a real market and charge the heck outta the padded segment, so that they cannot jack up the price so high. If they try and jack up the cost of wookiee armor, they will get alot of complaints.
dhcpSilicon wrote:
Wookiees don't have an alternative suit of armor to turn to. Please don't jack up prices just to make it hurt the armorsmiths, they can afford to pay well over your cost and effort. They're bajillionaires. Wooks on the other hand are usually broke because we end up paying for buffs, heals, foods and such just to do our normal daily routines.
You got it. AS are billionaires and tailors are lucky to maybe 8 million credits.
They charge us a heck of alot for the darn heavy leathers that no one will buy a crafters apron for such inflated prices. So unless friends supply the heavy leathers, you can't make any money from the aprons.
So armorsmiths are rich enough, so they can afford to pay higher prices for our goods. If wookiees don't buy their armor because it's too expensive, they will have to not make it, or drop the price. But don't blame tailors for trying to make money on an item that is completey useless to their profession.
Don't forget they will also be making mandolorian armor as well. I wonder what freakin componants they will need from tailors on these?
Message Edited by Akaara on 03-26-2004 11:45 AM
The_One18 wrote:
Armorsmiths actually want tailors to make the components? I highly doubt that, being a master armorsmith myself, I hate the fact that I will have to depend on someone else to make a key component for a set of armor. The fact that you have to experiment on it annoys me even more. IfI'm the one supplying the ingredientsfor the schematic, as well as runnning theit in my own factories,why shouldI then haveto pay through the nose for the schematic?Sorry, not to offend, thats just my opinion on the matter.
-Axe
Wookiee Master Armorsmith
A couple of points. Saying that all costs are simply passed on to the consumer is naive. Often times (an excellent example is chef brandy) there is a total and complete disconnect between costs and price. Price is very often based solely on demand, your costs may well double but that doesn't mean for one second that you can charge twice what you were before.
The second point is, that some people just don't like the feeling that their being used. A really good example of this was a couple months back when there was a thread here about a tailor adding precious taming tissues to clothing, getting a small handout, and having their customer turn around and get hundreds of k off that work. If you like being used, by all means keep your eyes shut tightly to what is going on around you. But in order to really understand the value that the things that you make have, you really have to have at least some understanding of other professions and the economics of that. Otherwise you are just a pawn.
P.S. I'm still not gonna make em 
Wire3k wrote:
Figure out what it's worth to you to do these, your costs, your time, your irrititation factor - certainly figure in the valueadd of what it goes into - but do NOT base it merely on what profit you think the smith is going to make.
Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 03-26-2004 11:59 AM
The_One18 wrote:
I have no problem paying for the schematics, but 50k, let alone 25k for a schematic that I am supplying the ingredients for, and running in my own factories, is ridiculous. I usually pay 10k per schematic of reinforced fiber panels or synthetic cloth, and I supply the ingredients, and run the schematic myself. Why should I be paying more for this particular schematic?
-Axe
Wookiee Master Armorsmith
kasuta wrote:
Most likely you won't have to pay 50K for a schematic. You'll be able to find a tailor to do it cheaper. But the tailors who don't want to do these components, myself included, will charge that much just to keep AS off our backs.
I , for one, actually WANT to make these components...I think it will be fun and interesting, and make me feel more a part of the 'crafting community'.
What I do NOT want is some AS to come storming into my shop, demanding that I make them a schemtic, and then leaving to go make the items themselves...if I'm going to experiment upon these, I want to craft them myself, and sell them as 'finished' components...and I would hope other tailors do as well.
Those that just sell the schematic aren't helping us actually get anything new...it just makes us look like a hindrance in the path of the AS getting what they want, when instead, we should be a desired link in the chain.
BE's sell finished tissues to us...they COULD just sell us the schematics, and let us factory run them, but they don't...we should be the same way, guys...don't let some pushy AS tell you what to do! (not that I think any of you would! )
Message Edited by Nuke490 on 03-26-2004 04:54 PM