Tailor Archive

Hello all, I was asked if I would be willing to pull the good ideas from the thread called Art Team: What Women Want by Ood_Bnar (aka Jake Rodgers, SWG Art Director). I was and did, and a very large section was devoted to requests for new tailor schematics and tailor wish list items that were art or UI related. I sent the document in on September 12th, highlightingthe most requested in red on the original (such as more shoes and hooded cloaks). The top section of this post is what I originally sent in, and the addendum part was gleaned from the tailor forum after September 12th. I'm keeping them separate in case I ever get the ok to forward more ideas to the art team.

Compiling this list was VERY time consuming. PLEASE read through what I have put together so far and only add ideas that are not already listed. Vandessa asked if I would be willing tomaintain a wish list thread and I jumped on it! Many excellent ideas have come up in schematic wish list threads on our tailor forum! Especially big cheers toRaijen, who contributed the bulk of the "from the movies" section and Anabelle, whose bathing suit section I directly cut and paste

Sent to art team Sept 12th

Schematics wish list

• Hats – Beret; Cowboy; Military (from the movies); Wide-brimmed sunhat; Indiana Jones; Rebel flight helmets; Tiaras; Fishing; Chef; Desert (w/ flap covering back of neck); Beanie; Derbie; Bonnet; Feathered; w/ Flower; Hoth furry hat; Flower wreaths


• Jackets - Formal jacket w/ open front; Lab Coat; Biker Jackets (Long-sleeve, sleeveless, open, zippered, buttoned, studs, spikes); Overcoat


• More wookiee clothes – Hide pants; Primitive jewelry (including rings so they can get married); Gladiator style boots with straps wrapping up the leg; Footwraps/Sandals; Leather toga; Leg wraps; Foot wraps; Female Wookiees: Long leather dress tied up the front with leather ribbons and leather fringes at the bottom; Long flared hide skirt with leather fringes; Color: Very few colors to choose from (some items are not even available in pink – the only color female wookiees can currently use to show they are females)


• Skirts – Mini-skirts; Tight just above knee; Mid-thigh; Sarong; Long & filmy; Filmy wrapped around the waist with beads; Long with slits up the sides to thighs; Floor-length and mid-thigh with material missing all down the sides (two leather rectangles held w/ straps); Short pleated; Hoop skirts; Long warrior skirt men can also wear; Kilt; Leia’s slave bikini skirt


• Shorts – Mid-thigh; Just above knee; Upper thigh


• Pants – With satin laces up the sides that show skin; Flared; Very low waist to show midriff; “Pantaloons” that are ankle length


• Filmy clothing – To lay over skin-tight items like the infiltrator’s suit or a leotard - Mini-skirt; Knee-length skirt; Floor length skirt; Dress; All in sheer transluscent fabric for layering.


• Female dancer clothing – Leotards like ballerinas wear (w/ no, short, and long sleeves); Metal bikini bottom Leia wore; Bellydancer clothing and accessories; Bellydancer lower half of face veils; Zippered Catsuit; Jeweled belt


• Male dancer clothes – Open shirts, tight pants, partially sequined shirts, bottom half of exotic leotard, bikini bottoms for guys with solid fabric, clothes that coordinate with female dancer clothes (for paired dancing)


• Boots – Thigh high boots (w/ and w/out laces); Army style lace-up & buckle-up boots (http://www.stompersboots.com/fots_carolina/Tank1.jpg); Very fitted knee-high boots (w/ and w/out stiletto heels); Hiking boots


• Shoes - Females: Strappy sandals with leather band around ankle; With straps winding up and around calf up to knee for ballerina look; High heels; Platform shoes; Clogs; Mary Janes; Open-toed sandals, Moccasins; See shoes at www.famousfootwear.com for ideas


• Cloaks/capes – Hooded capes (w/ and w/out sleeves - Lando); Cloaks (w/ and /wout hoods); Leia’s poncho (Endor); Fitted feminine hooded cloak (www.planetlara.com/angelina/pics/lara4.jpg); Ability to raise and lower hoods; Mantle (Held up by rope across chest), Crushed velvet hooded cape; Trenchcoat w/ high collar held together by straps and buckles; Wrap to wear over dresses (ties in the front)


• Gadgets – Gadgetry on front of rebel flightsuit; Gizmos for wrist (chronometer) and belt; Nightvision & heat-sensing goggles


• Glasses – Metal frame kind of glasses (colored & clear, diff lens shapes); Monocles


• Masks – Costume; Bandit; Zorro; Eye-patch; Ski mask; Visors; Ninja; Wedding veils


• Gloves – Lace; Up to ½ betw elbow & shoulder and up to wrist (satin look); True tipless gloves (have “tips” default to skin color)


• Male formal wear – Men have nothing to wear for weddings and other formal events; Tuxedos (standard, duster, medium split-tail); Ties; Bowties; Suits (see politicians in movies)


• Female formal wear - Female formal suit (Loose silky plain pants & loose silky suit jacket); Pinstriped suits (single & double breasted)


• Tank top – like the white male undershirt but in colors for males & females Camo clothing – As worn on Endor in movies; Especially a camo shirt


• Tights – In different colors; Fishnet stockings; Garter belts


• Socks – Knee-length, halfway up the thigh length, ankle length


• Shirts – Like “muscle shirt” but w/ low-cut oval & V-neck; One-shoulder-strap (tight & sleeveless); Halter top (held up by material around the neck only); Tube top (like sports bra but covering some tummy); Turtlenecks; Real sports bra; More corsets; Fuzzy tight sweater; Mesh shirts


• Dresses – Strapless (mid thigh, tight-fitting), Spaghetti straps (long, sequined), Short sleeveless (mid thigh), Corseted (mid thigh & long), Sari; Babydoll; Poofy ballgown; Oriental look; More with plunging backs; Plunging fronts; w/ layered skirts; Metallic mermaid dress (sleeveless and tight through body, flaring from knees to floor); Side slit gown; Empire waisted


• Pajamas – To roleplay getting ready for bed.


• Pet schematics – Collars (plain & studded); Little clothes for common small household pets (e.g. Bunny, Kittycat; My worrt Rolypoly isn’t common but he would look so cute in a little vest or t-shirt);


• Dyeable saddles and bridles formounts.


• Grand Healer’s Robe – New schematic out of it removing material around neck and in front, and the swirl at the top of the hood


• Wrist wraps – As a separate unisex item (like the ones on sports wrap); Non-armor bracers


• Accessories – Decorative hairbands for those with ponytails; Apron; Feather boas; Scarves (hair & neck); Bandanas; Spiked/studded collars, belts, & bracers; Waist sashes; Flower poking out over ear; Stethoscope


• Bags – Doctor’s bag; Dyeable Indiana Jones type satchel; Dyeable satin/leather purses & handbags; Invisible pack for fashionably conscious; Briefcase; Tool box


• Holsters – To stash swords on back & waist, guns on leg & hip


• Themes – Natalie Portman’s wardrobe; Ninja; Politician; Luke’s Farmer Boy outfit (A New Hope); More clothing from the movies


• More jewelry – Earrings (hoops, dangly, round gem); Nose rings; Nose gem stud; Navel rings; Upper arm bands; Ankle bracelets; Eyebrow rings/studs; Ear cuffs (loop around upper ear), Toe rings, Diamond ring, Have all rings show on finger; Body jewelry (www.crystallinecurves.com) or belly chains for dancers, Jeweled chokers, Slave collars (plus maching anklets & bracelets); Dog tag necklace; Different colored gems for existing necklaces & decorative headdress; Hair combs & pins
  

Graphics/UI wish list

• GUI - Add coloring number system – Issue: Very difficult to match clothing another tailor has made; Solution: In examine window for clothes, have it note using numbers which colors were used; Have number pop up when mouse is held over color palette


• Full 255 color palette for leather items - All wookiee clothes are leather; Very hard to match gloves, boots, dusters, cloaks, hats, belts & other hide-crafted accessories to cloth palettes; Two-strap bandolier only comes in shades of peach


• New Colors - Master tailors say they have no true yellow, teal, or pure red, and that many items cannot be made in pure black (see simple vest) or white (see muscle shirt); Tailors would like many of the dingy colors removed and more bright colors added, or just more bright colors added.


• More textures – Slick Darth Vader pleather look; Satin; Crushed Velvet; Silk; Fur trimmed clothes (like scout jacket); Metallic; Glittery


• More patterns – Plaid; Polkadots; Pinstripes


• Holo-imager – For Tailors – Vendor would have an option to allow customer to see how they would look while wearing the selected item


• Ability to sell a group of clothing as an “outfit” on vendor/bazaar - Tailor would choose “outfit” option and be able to put an outfit’s worth of clothing for sale as an entity; Clothing could still count individually for bazaar count; Many tailors take great time and effort putting together outfits that get bought up seperately or not noticed.


• Decals – Of swg objects to be pasted on chest or back of clothing


• Special dyes - Rare drop glowing dyes, glittering dies, transluscent fabric

Addendum, our ideas post Sept 12th

Schematics wish list

• Bathing Suits - For both men and women. While we can use some exisiting pieces for this (hot pants, bikini tops) the ones we have appear to be in materials that would be largely unsuitable for actual swimming (leather, metal...) Having some different options, in different textures with more a rubber/latex/wetsuit sort of look to them. This would be a great area to introduce more patterns also


• Jackets - Short formal jacket to be worn over dresses(example - Spencer Jacket: www.costumes.org/history/leloir/spencer1801.jpg); Tight-fitting, slimmer version of the duster for females; All jackets should scale down slimmer for females, especially around the shoulders


• Clothing denoting rank – Cloth armbands; Rank insignia (bars/stripes/stars) on jacket front, collar, and/or shoulders; Distinguishing Rebel vs Imperial


• Unisex dancer clothes – Ballet shoes; Leotard w/ top linked to shorts where midriff and back are bared; Sleeveless leotard with legs to ankle


• PA Insignias – Provide symbols, colors, and patterns that can be combined by the tailor into pa hall flags and/or pa jacket/cape/cloak insignias


• Packs – Plain canvas pack with full cloth color palette

Clothing from the movies:

• Episode I – Darth Maul’s outfit; Emperor’s hooded cloak; Captain Panaka’s uniform hat (theed palace); Aurra Sing’s half vest (pod race); Captain Typho’s eye patch


• Episode II – Amidala’s sun dress and cloth head band (lake retreat); Amidala’s blue and Nyrat’s red long sleeved half top (coruscant nightclub, lake retreat); Zam Wessel’s fabric veil (coruscant assasin); Taun We’s reinforced half top and skirt (tipoca city cloning facility); Ayy Vida’s metal headcrest (coruscant nightclub); Tas Kee’s pirate hat (coruscant nightclub); Achk Med-Beg’s black suspenders (coruscant nightclub); Dorme’s polkadot vest (amidala’s handmaiden); Lama Su’s reinforced padded robe (tipoca city cloning facility); Elan Sleazebaggano’s black cloth choker and patterned button up shirt (coruscant nightclub); Poggle the Lessor’s ornate royal robe (genosis); Anakin’s vest (battle of genosis); Boba Fett’s boots (battle of genosis); Aayla Secura’s one sleeved wrapped half top (battle of genosis); Onacanda Farr’s patterned jacket, poofy leather-print pants and turtle-neck with waist wrap (senate); Bail Organa’s royal robe; Sly Moore’s high collar cloak (senate); Lexi Dio’s ornate clasped double robe (senate)


• Episode IV – Obiwan’s Jedi outfit; Luke’s farmboy outfit; Darth Vader’s cape; Garindan’s goggles (dockingbay 94)


• Episode V – Lando’s side shoulder cape (cloud city); Lobot’s closed vest (bestine)


• Episode VI – Leia’s bikini bottom (jabba’s palace); Oola’s slave collar; Rystall’s bustier bodysuit (jabba’s palace); Greeda’s fiberplast bikini (jabba’s palace); Umpass-stay’s arm strap (jabba’s palace


• Extended Universe (www.starwars.com) - Komari Vosa’s layered leather top, leather bikini leggings, and thigh length boots

PS. While I included the sectionI sent Jake Rodgers onGraphics/UI Tailoring for the record, I will only be keeping track ofnew tailor schematic ideas. A thread dedicated tonon-schematic wish list itemscan be foundstickied to the top of our forum

Some of these items I really have problems with...

Cowboy hat
Fedora
Beanie
Rebel flight helmets (Should NOT be a common headwear)

Biker Jacket

Hooded Cape
Trenchcoat w/ collar

Costume; Bandit; Zorro; Eye-patch; Ski mask; Visors; Ninja; Wedding veils

Nose Rings
Navel Rings
Toe Rings (far too much detail for the character models / unnoticable)

All of the Natalie Portman Wardrobe ( I feel that it would be ridiculous if everyone could look like royalty)

All of the Jedi / Sith clothing (Doesn't belong on commoners)

I feel that these items either

- Lack a Star Wars feeling
- Would harm the feeling of the game
- Just don't belong

Just my opinion, but the above items I would not include.

Some more odd requests I've picked up here and there:

Blindfold: I had a Teras Kasi customer who was on some kind of Daredevil kick and was very disappointed that Star Wars technology hadn't advanced enough to create a simple strip of cloth he could wrap over his eyes. Obviously a very specialized piece, but it'd give us something simple to put in the vast, empty Eyewear category that wouldn't upset the CE people.

Handcuffs, Manacles, Shackles, etc.: As an equippable item (like a fishing rod) that replaces weapon and causes a difference in the way the character animates, not as gloves. There was a big role-playing event at one point about some slave getting kidnapped by Imperials or something of that nature, and I'm sure they could've gotten some great mileage out of something like this.

Racial Items: For virtually every race. For example, some kind of beads or other items wookiees could use to braid their fur, with several variations; loose braids with bones braided in for the warrior look, tight braids with beads or even gemstones for female wookiees/ceremonial purposes. "Scale spikes" Trandoshans can wear on their exposed hands and feet. Twi'leks are the easiest to design specialized items for, we know, but a little effort to give something to the rest of us would be met with big appreciation.

Ethnic Clothing: I know this is a sticking point for some people, but the fact is that Lucas's fictional cultures were, like those of basically any writer, heavily influenced by real-life ones. Virtually every item already in the game can be traced back to certain ethnic roots if you really care to try, so I can't see much reason not to go whole-hog here. African tribal wear, ancient Egyptian style headdresses/jewelry, martial arts gis and kendo skirts, etc., etc. If there's nothing in the game like it at the current time, it's probably worth adding.

Bejeweled headdresses for all races. Medieval style jeweled/beaded headpieces/skullcaps, both long and short versions. Jeweled-chain headpieces. Matching necklaces, chokers, torqs, collars, wrist cuffs...

Alphonse Mucha styleheadpieces are anexcellent example. Dresses and accessory jewelry as well.

Mucha examples:

http://www.nymuseum.com/Mucha%20Museum/Mucha%20Pages/byzantine.htm

http://www.nymuseum.com/Mucha%20Museum/Mucha%20Pages/salambo.htm

Or elaborate futuristic:

http://www.groboto.com/gallery/grobotorenderings/groBotoRenderings-5.htm

I'd like to see a belt that doesn't sit perfectly level on the waist (and hoolahooped out, but that's another beef), rather a belt that hangs down on one hip, like it's got some weight pulling it down.

someone said racial item:me being a rodian would love to see a kinda of battle mask,rodains were big battlers in there discription at least,like something that covers the eyes and wraps around the snout and leaves the end snout open with buckles and a whole bunch of creative stuff,BUT(thats a pready big but) dont forget the other races,i think twileks and zabrak already have something special(tatoos and head wear),but rodians,mon cal,bothan,wooks,trandos and humans(dont know what for humans) dont have anything special.

The only other schematics that I would mention are a mid-length pleated skirt which comes to the top of the knee. I saw a mention of a short pleated skirt, but I would like to see something which is shorter than the current skirts, but not something that looks like it comes from a cheerleader uniform. Anyway, its a classic skirt style so I was amazed it isn't already in the game. I would also like to see hair ribons. I wouldn't even mind if they had to be applied by an image designer, but I think that could be really cute. Also, were colored tights on the list? There are all sorts of things that could be done with these.

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PeeyoNiba wrote:

Some of these items I really have problems with...

Just my opinion, but the above items I would not include.

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Most of those items were sent on September 12th so it's too late to not include them. Our wish listswill be picked through with a fine tooth comb for appropriateness to the universe and so I'msure a huge majority of the schematics will not see the light of day. That and who knows how much time they will appropriate for new tailoring schematics, and when. I do agree that Jedi and Sith outftis should not be wearable by random people, but it has come up in discussion in the past that artisans be able to craft what they will need, such as light sabers. It may be that Jedi, dark or light, are given a little outfit along with their FSS hehe. I don't think you have anything to worry about with Natalie Portman's clothes There are already some very fancy pants things available and I rarely see anyone wearing them. People tend to dress casually in the game.

my two cents

half shirts - half shirts were metioned. i would love to see a varity of these. from skin tight to loose, long and short sleeved, silky with asian style trim to thick cable knitted turtlnecks.

sleeves - just sleeves not attached to a shirt. starting at the upper or mid arm both loose and fitted. they can look tough if do tight and bulky or sexy if done gauzey and loose.

high collared vest - a sleeve-less high collared vest would be both very formal if paired with a jacket or very casual if worn alone.

and these are things that could be done with existing clothing models

allow layering - if i want to wear pants under my skirtor a jacket over my short robe, let me.

break apart outfits/dresses. one dress like the luxurious gown could be broken up into 4 items, the scarf, the gloves, the lace skirt and the corset. this would require a person to buy each piece from a tailor and would allow more mix-and-match options.

create new items by re-texturing, simplifying, and dressing up exist items while keeping the originals as they are. we know you can do it. that's why most of the pants are shaped the same but differ in pattern, and pocket/stripe size. the reveling top retextured in dewback skin, a latex shiny pair of casual pants or a bagersett striped wooly coat would be fabulous. you could dress up the short robe with a new silky texture and getting rid of the leather on it and dress down the thin pleated skirt by getting rid of the belt.

Good stuff. I would personally like to see tiaras, got asked for them twice and it would look awesome for weddings.

stethescopes added to necklaces list!

Can I be completely honest without getting a flame?
I like a lot of the ideas but I can do without the game looking anymore like a great big brothel crossed with the matrix.

And I don't want to see everybody in the game looking like queen amidala either =D