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Thread: Introduce Clothing Coloration Kits

Yec
Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:11 pm
#1


I would like to see Tailors able to craft and sell clothing coloration kits. A lot of people have clothes they have either designed to have specific BE mods on them and/or added clothing tapes to them, but later have grown tired of the color of the apparel and want a change. It can be very expensive to replace such clothes (my BE'd suit cost 350k) and even more expensive to replace clothes with tapes on them (especially very good tapes). So, introduce an item to the game that interfaces with other items like a repair kit does (gives you a list of valid items to use kit on upon Useing in your inventory). Let the kits change the "body" and "trim" color in a similar fashion that vehicle customization kits do. I'd really like to see this added.


Edit: Having not seen the history of this subject at all, I was not prepared for the responses. How about this: add a mechanism where Master Tailors (and only masters) can recolorize clothes.

Message Edited by Yec on 02-23-2004 06:12 AM



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donnah42
Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:27 pm
#2

This has been brought up multiple times and is kind of a controversial issue around here. Most of the folks who are in favor of any type of colorization want it to be a tailor-only activity or have a lot of other restrictions like extra decay. Others are against it entirely.

See, as tailors, we can't experiment. Our material quality doesn't matter. So all we really have to distinguish ourselves is our sense of style. There are all kinds of issues that colorization brings up. For example, many of us put a color name in our clothing. Colorization would make many clothing with colors in the name look a little silly, like we didn't know what we were doing. If an item we make gets recolored to a horrible color combination, then it may look as if we made it that ugly to start with since our name is on the item as creator.

Color kits for clothes are not as simple an idea as colorization kits for vehicles. We hope the devs don't rush into anything like that (hardly a danger that they'd rush anything for tailors though).



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ArthurDentOnBria
Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:44 pm
#3






Yec wrote:

Let the kits change the "body" and "trim" color in a similar fashion that vehicle customization kits do. I'd really like to see this added.





Well Yec, I'm sure a lot of customers would like this but it would literally signal the end of tailoring. May as well just have NPC's distribute white clothing and let customers customize them themselves.



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Mystyrys
Sun Feb 22, 2004 9:28 pm
#4

No color kits for clothes. No. No. No.


I agree with Kara. If color kits for clothes ever came to be, they might as well take out the entire tailor profession and put the generic clothing dispensers back in the game.





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RandDarkstar
Mon Feb 23, 2004 12:28 am
#5

Or we could have portable entertainment units, so we didn't have to go to cantinas and watch dancers and listen to music. We could have replicators for food as well. Heck... while we are at it, let's just drop everything but combat classes. That way we can just line up on each side of a battlefield and hit our combat macros.



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MrPsycohed
Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:02 am
#6

Ack, not this again.

If any devs are lurking about out there, I wanna make a "no" vote heard on this issue. Colorization is the heart of the tailoring profession. It's the only thing we can really do to our clothing. Just creating a blank piece of clothing that anyone can color pretty much negates my purpose of being.




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Yec
Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:09 am
#7

Ok, points taken.


Make it so only a Master Tailor can recolorize clothes. I can't see ANY tailor having a problem with that, and I'd be just as happy to pay a tailor to recolorize my suits.


How about that?



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Gyopi
Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:22 am
#8






RandDarkstar wrote:
Or we could have portable entertainment units, so we didn't have to go to cantinas and watch dancers and listen to music. We could have replicators for food as well. Heck... while we are at it, let's just drop everything but combat classes. That way we can just line up on each side of a battlefield and hit our combat macros.







Who needs combat characters? The NPCs and monsters can kill each other.






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ZahrIna
Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:56 am
#9






Yec wrote:

Ok, points taken.


Make it so only a Master Tailor can recolorize clothes. I can't see ANY tailor having a problem with that, and I'd be just as happy to pay a tailor to recolorize my suits.


How about that?







I really can't and wouldn't try to speak for anyone but myself...so.. here's my take on the above idea. I can see how you would think that master tailor's being the only ones to "recolor" items would fly. The thing is, I and I'd almost say we (again not positive) are well.. territorial is one way to put it. I do not mean out shops or our harvs or houses.. I mean our clothing. Many of us have a mark. From Kessiwear to Z's (mine) it's our tag, be it what it may.


Personally, I would be offended if another tailor "altered" my design. Not because it's MINE.. but because I put thought and a tiny bit of myself into that item. I also would refuse to color anyone else's clothing. Not because I'm too good but out of respect for my fellow tailor. Would some do it? Probably, everyone has diff play styles and some are just in it for the credits *cough* (sorry almost choked on that).


My opinion.. for what it's worth.




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Itren
Mon Feb 23, 2004 8:11 am
#10

what if you had to take the outfit back to the tailor that made it, to get it recolored?




not that I'm for the idea, just throwing out an idea that might be acceptable for an add on provision here





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Gyopi
Mon Feb 23, 2004 9:41 am
#11






Itren wrote:

what if you had to take the outfit back to the tailor that made it, to get it recolored?




not that I'm for the idea, just throwing out an idea that might be acceptable for an add on provision here









Most of us (not all) would rather not get into redying clothing, or if we do make it for a very limited amount of time so we can fix mistakes or possibly dye things out of factory crates as they are pulled out. We generally like to make clothes and put together outfits. Dyeing is part of the job, but we would rather not have to recolor every time somone decides that they want to change colors for the day. Most of us would hate it if clothes with our name was redyed and looked ugly (I don't make clothes in some of these really ugly colors!). I don't want all of my nice outfits made black! Anyway, people should buy clothes when they want new ones. That is what keeps the tailor economy going right now, and after all, in real life if you want a red sweater and you have a green one, you don't go and dye it. You go to the store and buy a new one!






Momoko--Master Tailor near Kaadara on Lowca--
Come to Sitateya boutique at (5083 5804) on Naboo for elegant fashions, accessories, cute outfits, uniforms or any other clothing needs.
Eimi -- Master Bioengineer - Master Image Designer on Lowca--
Eimiko--Master Image Designer on TestCenter--

ArthurDentOnBria
Mon Feb 23, 2004 10:10 am
#12









Yec wrote:

Ok, points taken.


Make it so only a Master Tailor can recolorize clothes. I can't see ANY tailor having a problem with that, and I'd be just as happy to pay a tailor to recolorize my suits.


How about that?





A very bold statement from a non-tailor telling us what we do and do not want. Hehe, well, I'm a tailor, and I have a problem with it, but I'm not going to dredge that issue up again. We've had lots of threads that discuss this in length. We also had some polls. I think the final outcome of the polls was something like: 0% in favor of customer re-coloring, 60% in favor of some sort of tailor-only recoloring (but no consensus on how that would work), and 40% in favor of no-recoloring by anyone at any time. So please don't assume that you speak for us ok? And many people make the mistake of thinking that this is about credits. It's not, it about a tailor's role in the game and whether or not we'd like to continue being tailors if our roles change. You can come here and say "wouldn't it be cool if tailors didn't/did have to..." but changing our role in the game you have to ask how that would affect US. Becuase the bottom line is, if nobody wants to play tailor, you won't be able to buy clothing anywhere, at anytime, at any price.

Message Edited by ArthurDentOnBria on 02-23-2004 09:22 AM



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Account cancelled 7/8/05 due to game breaking bugs in these professions that have been neglected for FAR too long. Last day July 27 2005
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Black_Ph0sph0rus
Mon Feb 23, 2004 1:38 pm
#13

I've got to agree with introducing color kits for clothes. I spend more credits on clothes than anything.


And every few days, I want a different color scheme. But I donthave the inventory room to lug around 6 full outfits, along with other important items.


I absolutely do NOT think that everyone should get the option for customizing clothes though. As much as i hate having to geta Droid Engineer to change my droid's color.. and not be abe to see the color beforehand, this is a Tailor's job. Why can't they make the color interface viewable to the client too.. it would be very useful for ID also .. ? O.o


Well, theres my 2 cents. Oh yea.. should be able to change name when changin colors too, like Backpacks.


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