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Thread: Why aren't Tailors selling Trim?

Akaara
Sat Feb 28, 2004 5:48 am
#14

My reasons for not selling trim (or syn cloth):


I am a master tailor therefore I would prefer that chefs and armorsmiths seek out non-master tailors to make these items for them, helping out newer tailors. Helps the new tailors make money (hopefully).


I do not want to say "yes" to one chef (or armorsmith) and "no" to another, so I just don't make any. It'smy all or none policy.


I fully realize the influx of tells I would get if I started selling crates of trim or syn, and I have enough of those already.






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ItemCreator
Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:08 am
#15

If there are any Europe-Infinity Chefs reading this who would like to buy factory crates of trim, send me a mail ingame (I prefer mails to tells) and we'll sort something out.


I only have one wearables factory so I won't be able to supply huge amounts but a few crates now and then won't be a problem.


Kel





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ItemCreator
Sun Feb 29, 2004 2:31 pm
#16

Same here Morhea, if someone wants a schematic and they bring me the materials I'm happy to create it for them with no charge. Happily most customers are happy to tip me anyway


Kel






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donnah42
Sun Feb 29, 2004 8:02 pm
#17

I kind of understand the "well it doesn't really cost me anything so why make them pay?" idea for making schems, but please keep in mind that there are a lot of lower level tailors that make a living selling synth (and will probably be getting into the trim market now that there's demand for it).

So by providing people with free ability to make their own components, you're doing a disservice to the lower level tailors trying to earn a little money as they go up the skill tree. Every time you make a free schematic, you're cutting a little into the sales of people who depend on component sales in order to buy resources and maintain their shops and factories.

In addition, providing a schematic is a valuable service. I charge less for them than I do for finished crates, but I still charge a good amount. You're giving them something that they need, and something they can make a lot of profit from. In charging for a schematic, I don't consider that I'm just charging for the time it takes to craft it. I'm charging because I feel that the tailoring skill is valuable and I put a lot of time and effort into earning my abilities.

It's a service that is worth paying for, just like image design, or entertainer buffs, or any other service skill that takes time but no real resources. You'd never suggest that an entertainer should buff someone for free just because it doesn't really cost them anything to do so. That's kind of how I see giving out free schems.

Just wanted to provide another viewpoint on this issue.



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ArthurDentOnBria
Sun Feb 29, 2004 9:23 pm
#18

/rant


As far as the free schematic thing, couldn't agree more Donnah. I think it's kind of disrespectful of a crafter to ask another crafter for a schematic in the first place. The implication generally is that they don't think enough of you to buy it from you. But it's equally disrespectful for crafters to openly publisize the fact that they are more than willing to give away items in their skill tree away for free. That's just not a nice thing to do to other tailors. If there are folks that want to do that, cool, you do that, but at least don't rub it in the faces of other tailors.


And incidentally, when suggestions are made that would give us additional "services" that we could provide, like for example the tailor-only colorization thing, and people suggest that this would be a revenue source, this right here is why it would never work out that way. Because there are always some, ah,persons, willing to do it for nothing.


/rant off




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ToranTT
Sun Feb 29, 2004 10:22 pm
#19






TuskKiller wrote:

I'm a Chef on Flurry and I can't find ANYONE selling crated Trim. With barrel broken, Crated Trim is in high demand to make casks for brandy and other drinks, yet none of the tailors I ask, sell the stuff.


It's only a Formal 1 skill, so a newbie tailor grinding the prof could make some side money I'd think. If anyone knows a Trim vendor/seller of Flurry.... email Taker in-game. And if you are not on Flurry, consider selling crated trim as a side business.... people can only wear so many clothes.... this would be a disposable item requiring repeated purchases..... at least until barrels are fixed.







heh I have 4 (should really be running 6) wearable factories continuously going, pumping out trim for 1 chef.


He buys everything I make. I can't even sqeeze in a run ofmy normal components.


I dunno what we're going to do when he finishes armorsmith.






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eman7h
Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:44 am
#20

My polcy on subcomponents is: if you have the recorces, you get a skematic. I don't charge, becase as I see it, it dosn't cost me anything to make you a skematic, so why shouldI not make one?




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Rodie
Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:53 am
#21

I agree with the 'what does trim have to do with drinks in barrels?' They should have use reinforced fiber panels.


Or the heavy duty leather or the heavy duty clasps.. or ... or.. dont get me started.. lol


SueDenim
Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:35 am
#22

I think the hologrinding phenomenon has changed a lot of the dynamics of component and schematic sales. There's less incentive to sell crates to fill the voracious demand of hologrinders, and more of a temptation to just throw a schematic at them in the hope that they'll quit bothering you.

It really ticks me off how little forethought seems to have gone into the whole holocron/FSCS business, and how many stupid ripple effects there are from that.



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Gyopi
Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:40 am
#23






SueDenim wrote:
I think the hologrinding phenomenon has changed a lot of the dynamics of component and schematic sales. There's less incentive to sell crates to fill the voracious demand of hologrinders, and more of a temptation to just throw a schematic at them in the hope that they'll quit bothering you.

It really ticks me off how little forethought seems to have gone into the whole holocron/FSCS business, and how many stupid ripple effects there are from that.






They made a big deal about the game having a player economy, which I think is a good thing. What they don't seem to understand is how unstable the economy is. Every time they make a big change its like putting the entire economy in a box, shaking it up and seeing what it settles down to in the end.






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SueDenim
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:46 am
#24

Yeah, sometimes I wonder if (the now-promoted) Holocron is the only developer who really understands the player-run economy concept. Or maybe he doesn't either? Most of the changes they've made to the game have the Law of Unintended Consequences running amok.



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SSquirrel76
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:12 am
#25

Well, here's one tailor on Wanderhome willing to make Trim!

I have two factories and the means to get my own resources.

So if you need trim on Wanderhome, contact Osethme. I try to have a 24-48 hour turn around per big order. If I get too many requests, though, that will go up.

So yeah.

Osethme on Wanderhome, Master Tailor



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Rodie
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:23 am
#26

I agree. Whomever thought up the idea to put macro's into a online gameis nuts! That one thing gone would change this game so much.
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