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Thread: Shouldn't tailors be crafting Jedi Robes

lortext
Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:02 pm
#1

I mean, these robes have to come from somewhere! I felt that at one time there was a strong emphasis on having the really valuable items in the game all be craftable by players. Having the robes be *given out* when you reach a certain level or stats is a step away from this point of view. To me,this is analagos to just giving a rifleman a new rifle when he has the certification for it.


I know a lot of extra effort would need to go into a system for craftable Jedi equipment and in the end it would take resources away from other elements. But what it comes down to is this: craftable robes make tailoringa better profession, the stats on robes could be modifiable, and it would give the Jedi the individuality they deserve. Go to www.starwars.com. Indeed the Jedi wear modest clothing, but they definately do not dress the same. I implore the powers to be to consider this option and give the star wars universe and Star Wars galaxies the flavor and depth it deserves.


Personally I dont think robes should give away a players status or force ranking, though the developers want the bonuses of Jedi clothing to reflect their status. I would suggest that it isnt the clothing which gives the Jedi their defence. Should this option be implemented in a craftable system, I would say that the stats on clothing should dynamically change depending on the status of the wearer.
DooWang
Tue Jun 22, 2004 6:05 pm
#2

Only FS crafters should be able to craft them.
TheNola
Tue Jun 22, 2004 8:27 pm
#3






DooWang wrote:

Only FS crafters should be able to craft them.






Yes, I agree.



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Alciril
Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:12 pm
#4

I was (and still am) very much in favor of tailors having some role in making the robes. While I agree we shouldn't be the only ones involved in their creation, sidestepping us is an insult.


It's ironic that Jedi are perfectly fine with paying hundreds of thousands of credits to newbies for force crystals that were looted from meatlumps and thugs, but are completely unwilling to work with tailors for the creation of a robe.



Alciril, Master Tailor
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"Tailoring-related components (fiber panels, synthetic cloth, trim) always in stock!
"Custom orders welcome! Please see me for any of your tailoring needs!

Xrool
Tue Jun 22, 2004 9:35 pm
#5






Alciril wrote:

I was (and still am) very much in favor of tailors having some role in making the robes. While I agree we shouldn't be the only ones involved in their creation, sidestepping us is an insult.


It's ironic that Jedi are perfectly fine with paying hundreds of thousands of credits to newbies for force crystals that were looted from meatlumps and thugs, but are completely unwilling to work with tailors for the creation of a robe.






/agree



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Kouru
Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:14 pm
#6

Nobody except jedi should deal with jedi anything.



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lortext
Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:25 pm
#7

Yet, in the Star Wars universe the Jedi wear simple robes for humility and diplomatic sake (the Sith on the other hand, could probablly care less about humility but wear robes just in the fact that they are so powerful that armor would just weaken them).


I am unsure as to why we would want to isolate the Jedi from the non-force classes. Why make an effort to damage the community and player interaction?
Alciril
Tue Jun 22, 2004 10:47 pm
#8






Kouru wrote:

Nobody except jedi should deal with jedi anything.





But again, Jedi are fine with purchasing crystals and pearls from other people? This is an example of interdependence done poorly, and yet Jedi tolerate it. Heck, there isn't even an uproar to make crystals crafted/foraged. Interdependence done in a good way can benefit both parties.


Jedi exist in the same world with other players, so there's no reason that they shouldn't have to live in it too, even in some small way. If Jedi are to be as self-sufficient as you want them to be, then it would also seem reasonable to make the Jedi economy a sealed one. No credit or item transfers between them and other non-Jedi players. Also place them on a forced vow of poverty and limit them to thetens of thousands of credits so that they can pay for travel expenses.


That wouldn't be any fun, would it? But I imagine living on your own in a world with thousands of other people wouldn't be either. By and large, tailors aren't greedy. After all, tailors who originally took up the profession in order to become rich have quickly learned that the money lies in other professions. What you're left withare people who honestly love clothes and interaction. The community isn't asking to craft "uber" robes that we can dangle on a string in front of you and ask millions of credits for. Tailors would be overjoyed at robes wearableonly byJedi that could be crafted with some synthetic cloth and a few units of polymer and hide. They'd only warrant a few thousand credits as their sale price. The schematic might even be granted at some tailoring-relatedforce sensitivity line. You could even make them "tuned" by individual jedi afterwards.


Since launch, we've received three new pieces of art. Two chef hats andan apron. You might even argue that they were part of the Chef revamp and the fact that we got them was just a side effect.But more than anything, tailors just want to be given something.




Alciril, Master Tailor
"Alciril's Clothing Creations is located south of Coronet, Corellia at (-315, -5780)
"Tailoring-related components (fiber panels, synthetic cloth, trim) always in stock!
"Custom orders welcome! Please see me for any of your tailoring needs!

Kouru
Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:11 pm
#9

Sorry ya guys have it so rough. Go ahead and make the robes



Kouru
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Glzmo
Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:23 am
#10




Tailors, please read the post that is linkedto my signature and think about it.

It's not so much about robes but about what Jedi are lacking at the moment, still it does deal with the robes issue a little bit, so you might be interested.


Thanks!

Message Edited by Glzmo on 06-23-2004 04:25 AM



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Alciril
Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:32 am
#11




Glzmo wrote:




Tailors, please read the post that is linkedto my signature and think about it.

It's not so much about robes but about what Jedi are lacking at the moment, still it does deal with the robes issue a little bit, so you might be interested.


Thanks!

Message Edited by Glzmo on 06-23-2004 04:25 AM





Thank you for not taking an anti-tailor stance. The link in your signature is cut off and hard to click so here it is for everyone in the thread:





Alciril, Master Tailor
"Alciril's Clothing Creations is located south of Coronet, Corellia at (-315, -5780)
"Tailoring-related components (fiber panels, synthetic cloth, trim) always in stock!
"Custom orders welcome! Please see me for any of your tailoring needs!

Mantison
Wed Jun 23, 2004 8:15 am
#12

I would say have Jedi make thier own robes, but must use panels made by tailors, and a fastener or two, and some trim, hehe....



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Gyopi
Wed Jun 23, 2004 10:11 am
#13






Mantison wrote:

I would say have Jedi make thier own robes, but must use panels made by tailors, and a fastener or two, and some trim, hehe....







I am personally tired of making components for people and would rather that the robes be handed out in the way that is planned than to have to make components for every jedi who wants a robe.


This is probably not a good time to talk about jedi stuff with me anyway. I am kind of annoyed at the jedi in the game. The prevailing attitude I have seen from most of the jedi that I have met is that because it is so hard to grind that jedi should be superior to other classes in every way as a reward for their hard work. Its fine that all that work should be rewarded (and *is* being rewarded with lots of new development time), but right now my reward for staying a tailor for all these many months and working really hard to try to be the best tailor I can (which is as much or more work than just grinding professions) is burnout and steadily declining sales with absolutely no indication that they are going to spend any time to improve things in the forseeable future.






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