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Thread: Logged in... bombarded with tells... logged out

Akaara
Tue Jan 27, 2004 7:33 pm
#1

This happens every night. The bad thing is that I logged out in the Mall instead of escaping back to town. I had a bunch of tells, I finally just replied with "Sorry I am under heavy fire right now, can't talk."


I can't handle it sometimes... /falls apart and pulls her hair out


I was so excited because I bought 125 active bio-sensors and 75 cover tissues (with alot of the other ones) but as soon as people find out.. it's insanity.


I try to sneak in the game but it doesn't work... /holds breath, rolls up sleeves and goes back in game... still trying to get to tatooine.




_____Chiana_________________________
JEDI ELDERCL 90

Sying ~ Master Entertainer

Nikeesha YMaster Tailor

NJ62
Tue Jan 27, 2004 8:27 pm
#2

Ok... this happens all the time. Remain calm.


First of all... hit /afk while you're loading.


Second: what doesyour afk say? Today, mine says "Me not here! Scram!" I haven't gotten a follow-up tell all day. Obviously this is not the tactic everyone would want to use, but it conveys that I'm busy and am definitely not taking orders.


Third: you absolutely have the right to not answer tells, even if you are technicaly atk. You have the right to not answer tells if your afk flag is off.


Remember it's a game. If you piss people off - well ok, you'll feel bad about it, but ask yourself whether you need everyone to approve of you and everyone want to come to your shop... Or can you afford to have people want to shop elsewhere. Sounds like you can afford for some of them to find a new tailor. You have enough on your plate. If someone is offended that you don't answer his or her tell when you aren't even done loading, too bad - you probably don't want that person bothering you anyway because he or she is devoid of common sense.


It's not a popularity contest. Your customers won't all abandon ship simultaneouslyif you offend a few by not answering tells. If they say something snarky take a deep breath and remember that you'll never meet these people - ever - and they're not necessarily (rational, normal) people whose opinions you should be caring about.


If my mother calls and I don't answer, yeah I feel bad. These people are not your mother!


If logging on makes you want to logout - what are you paying $15 a month for? To be harassed? Reclaim your rights, even at the expense of the slightly miffed feelings of your customers. Put yourself first.



n'Jessi
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Mystyrys
Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:11 pm
#3

Heh, I had a weekend like that too. You have my sympathies. I don't do BE clothes just yet, (just moved location and still setting up and gathering supplies to do so) and I get this tell hell on loading thing. I mean, really, what's up with that? Trying to push to the front of the line? Think you'll catch me in my shop and make me feel obligated to sit and wait there till you fly in from Yavin 4 before I run off to take care of my stuff? Umm, nope. I answer friend tells first, the requisite guild hello and then I juggle customer tells. But gee, let me finish loading please? LOL, Master Tailor = TEF. /Tell on first sight!


We're Tailors. Not Armor or Weapon smiths. Since when are boots and a shirt an emergency? Your armor broke on Lok at the Kimogilla village. You need new armor now. *points* There's the armorer's merchant tent right there, outside the village. Boy howdy was that guy thinking ahead or what? *scans the horizon* A Tailor merchant tent in sight? Umm, nope. If you deleted your boots and extra shirt to make room in your inventory, I am not hopping a shuttle from Tatooine, to Corellia, to Lok, to the Kimo village to make you a new pair of boots. The Kimo doesn't care if you are barefoot. You will be just as tasty and juicy with or without those boots.


I tried something new today. I had logged out sitting inside my crafting station. I had No Title on. I hit /afk > enter soon as I could. I ignored the tells coming in. I paled at the long listing of You have new mail on the chat window. I reset the /afk message to: I am out working on Pistol xps today. Please send all requests by mail and I will reply soon as I can. Thank you.


Every tell I got after that, was followed with an email ding. No repeat tells checking to see if I was really afk. I answered the mails inbetween shooting sprees while healing in camp. (Yes, I really, really was out working on my pistol xps. With a very hunky sweetie MCM who kept me alive long enough to get some xps. Besides, he's a pleasure to look at. Heh.) I advised a scout to offer his hides to my vendor. I sold several crates of RFPs to be picked up later. I arranged appointments for later custom orders. I referred folks to Tailors I knew kept BE clothes in stock. Etc. I never answered a single tell.


It was nice. I had fun today. I crafted not a single item of clothing. *tosses hair aside like Scarlett O'Hara* I will think about that tomorrow.


So what was the trick? Combat types respecting the combat xp grind? Or what?





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ailor &Entertainer
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Bluude
Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:30 am
#4

Yep, I get that all the time too which is why I almost always leave my AFK message on.


It tells them to go to a website and choose their order and then e-mail it to me.


I send people to www.sheylara.com even though her prices are a bit low. Anyone have a better website I could send people to without the low pricing.


I am now overcharging to try and force people to go elsewhere. I have 10 million in my account and really just do stuff for my guildmates these days. Granted there are over 350 people in my guild and I am the only master tailor.


BTW I made all my money from vehicles, not clothing. Tailors undercharge so much that your can't even make a decent living as a master tailor without having PVP L33t boys saying I am ripping people off.


I just want city warn back so I can just shoot people that say I am ripping them off with my master rifleman skills.





RENDAR BLUUDE

MASTER TAILOR
MASTER RIFLEMAN
Colonel in the Imperial Army
Numtini
Wed Jan 28, 2004 5:04 am
#5

That was what it was like for me when I left in August (the tells didn't do it, it was the double hit of factories not working for weeks and decay and experimentation being removed) and now I've been back a few days.


Let me tell you one thing, it's a lot better to be bombarded with tells when you log in than to go back to scrambling for customers! I've been reduced to hawking dusters on the bazaar. (And just like real life, if you're not busy you end up going out and spending!I do have a pretty new droid though.)




Karai Li-ig
Master Tailor & Droid Engineer
Dantooine Mining Outpost
Laschana
Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:03 am
#6

I share your pain. I have had a couple customers in the past few days, who, while I was out kicking nightsister behind, are screaming at me to come back to my shop and make them an outfit right now becuase they need to look good for a fight, or something. My simple reply.......I am NOT at your beck and call. Either find something on my vendor or find another tailor who is willing to be at your beck and call, for that is not me!! Of course, what I really felt like saying is "piss off", but that would have been a bit more rude! My afk is on alot too, my latest one says " I am either in DND (do not disturb) or AFK mode right now. Please mail all orders/inquiries. TLC Mall (coords)." Of course I also had someone who apparently could not read, and still sent me a tell like clockwork every 5 min. I figure if the person is too stupid to actually read, they are not really someone I want to deal with anyway. Also, I do not answer tells received within 5 min of logging in, I simply ignore them and pretend I didn't see them!!!! That gives me plenty of time to get my afk up and running.


Another tip: Put your afk on when you log out, it will still be in effect until you are fully logged in the next time, so anyone trying to tell you the second you log in will get the afk msg!!!



Laschana Kelsain, Master Pikewoman By Choice!!
Sahara Wind,11 pt Master Armorsmith/Master Merchant
TorchLight Crafters Mall
(-1411 -5623) Da'Vinci, Tatooine

tsuya
Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:01 am
#7

I have two tricks. When I log out at night I change my title to something that won't result in tell-hell, like novice swordsman. When I log in I wait until i feel I'm ready to handle tells and then switch back to tailor, immediately putting up my /afk which says something like "I'm out of the shop or afk right now, please email all custom orders." I have also found that putting a rule in place for myself that I will take orders by email only and not tells helps me keep my sanity. I enforce it by politely telling anyone that sends me a tell asking if Ican "make them some clothes" that this is my policy and I will get to their order asap, and suggesting they browse the vendors in the meantime, followed up by emailing my waypoint. Most of my regulars are now pretty much used to it and email right off so I only have a few random tells to deal with most days.


N'Jessi had a really good post on this and other subjects, I hope she doesn't mind my linking it here


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=tailor&message.id=23927





Theano Ami

Master Tailor|Fashion Consultant

Designs by Theano - /waypoint -44 -5750


FloridianJen
Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:22 am
#8

Oh Chiana *Gives Chiana A Little BothanHug* I'm so sorry to hear that you are going through this It sucks when it seems as though you cannot escape the demand of attentionthat this profession can sometimes suffocateuswith...kinda like the chokehold of ole' vader...lol


I've been down that road before where you want to scream "CALGON, Take Me Away" and I honestlydidn't think that there would ever be a day that I could escape it. Day in and day out that you log in- there is no rest or time for yourself. You are constantly surrounded by things that you feel you "Have To Do" rather than "Things You Want To Do" and you cannot have a moment's peace to yourself no matter how hard you try.


You know one thing that I did that reallygave me a nice break (kinda like a SW vacation in SW) and also gave me some happiness and satisfactionof pride - was going to each planet and doing ALL of the poi's...lol...Doing all of them really made me feel as if I got out there and actually got to see things that I feel I'vebeen missing out on all this time. Some other accomplishments that I've always wanted to do....I finally got around to doing: the rebel themepark & Jabba's too!!! And you know what, I had my AFK on the whole time saying "sorry, doing themeparks today, or sorry, taking off from tailoring because I'm working on some top secret missions...email me your order" or something like that....


I'm sure that you feel overwhelmed alot and I can definetly see why. You are a *BIG* name on our server. Everyone knows you, respects you, and has confidence in knowing that you will be there to help them in any way possible. But, thing is...sometimes - you gotta let 'em know who's the boss And let them know that sometimes you can't be there for them, because you come first!


You know ...your whole business is all about weddings...*Shrug* maybe letting people know that you only do that anymore as a first-person service, and all other tailoring needs can be found on your vendor? With all of the holocroners out there making items now-a-days, easy things, like a guy asking me to stop and make him a cloak one day,bah! go look on the bazaar first, please...lol...I don't know, your fate lies in the decisions that you make and they are yours only to make....all-in-all, I just think you are just waytoo nice!!!


Luv Ya Chiana - hang in there



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PureJeanius
Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:59 am
#9


the /afk while loading tip is priceless. my current afk message says, "there is no such thing as a clothing/image design emergency. please email me your question/request. thank you"


if people can't respect the afk message then they should be /addignored


I know the guilt feeling from not replying to every single /tell sent my way, but I decided that if i wanted to continue to enjoy the game i had to get over it





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Akaara
Wed Jan 28, 2004 12:27 pm
#10

I pretty much have just stopped playing at night, and only play now during the daytime. Lots of good advice. The thing is I love making BE clothing and investing in the best tissues I can find. You can imagine how excited I was to buy 125 active bio-sensors at once, so I really enjoyed stocking my vendor full. The only problem is getting out of the shop! I wish I could load vendors remotely.


Avaleena, I really love doing weddings and that is my secret real profession in SWG. However I went from doing 2 or 3 a month to none in the past 3 weeks! But, like everything, I'm sure it will pick back up again in the near future.


I think it must be common for crafters to get burned out, which is why tailors (and other crafting professions)seem to come and go so quickly.







_____Chiana_________________________
JEDI ELDERCL 90

Sying ~ Master Entertainer

Nikeesha YMaster Tailor

Dex1138
Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:39 am
#11

I must suck, this never happens to me Although I have one faithful customer that grabs me when I log on.



Tol "the Travelling Tailor" Doneeta
* Threads N' Things *
Fine Clothing and Furniture
Master Tailor | Kauri
(no relation to Tott Doneeta)


Loki1975
Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:13 am
#12

I have changed my title to novice artisan. This has stopped people from bombarding me with requests for stuff, most things I can not make as I only have level 1 field wear, or people asking for training or being trained . The only problem about having novice artisan title is the number of people who ask if they can train me as they are after AP .
Akaara
Thu Jan 29, 2004 8:03 am
#13

Unfortunately changing my title wouldn't help in the least bit. Everyone already knows me and knows I am a tailor. LOL


Part of the problem is the continual questions about BE items, I repeat myself so much but I suppose not everyone reads the boards. Then there is one guy that keep asking me to make him a Shaolin Monk outfit... now what the heck is that?






_____Chiana_________________________
JEDI ELDERCL 90

Sying ~ Master Entertainer

Nikeesha YMaster Tailor

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