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Thread: Swords CU specials.

KreyMerr
Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:02 pm
#1

Im starting to compile my data and will begin posting it here. In a week or so Id like to have the Swordsman CU Guide up.

Right now I have some specials costs charted. I need to do more tests with a larger variety of weapons, but that will take time.

PowerHammer- special cost 104- 498.48 DPS
Critical- 20% action 3% mind - 2039 dmg (2548 on crit hit 1 in ?? hits)
Flurry- 15% action 2% mind - 1133 dmg
Power- 21% action 5% mind - 2152 dmg
Head- 15% action 2% mind - 1926 dmg
ArmorBreak- 16% action 2% mind - --- dmg

Brawler Skills-
Hit- 2% action 2% mind - 1133 dmg
Strike- 10% action 2% mind - 1246 dmg
Assault- 15% action 2% mind - 1586 dmg

Non-attacks
Berserk - 5% action 0% mind
Center- 8% action 0% mind
AreaTaunt- 8% action 0% mind

All attacks on same mob, all attacks with Mbrawler Mswords level moves, Improved etc.

I need to get some special weapons made so I can test how effective lowering cost is.

More info to come as I collect it.

Message Edited by KreyMerr on 05-01-2005 02:14 PM

Message Edited by KreyMerr on 05-01-2005 02:22 PM



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Yateswook
Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:06 pm
#2


Waiting to get home to test out swords soons as the 56k downloads it....


Sounds like the specials are completely cahnged...
Is there still an area attack, I loved melee2harea3




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KreyMerr
Fri Apr 29, 2005 4:10 pm
#3

no area attack in the swordsman tree. basically the ones I listed are what we have with area taunt and berserk. Most have advanced versions, I tested as a Master.



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Yateswook
Fri Apr 29, 2005 5:31 pm
#4

Sort of disapointing, guess I am gonna have to wait till I get to play to know how I really feel, hopefully it wont be that way Ive felt for the past 3 days just reading the forums about CU, but I am excited to try out swords/doc



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DarkBShadow
Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:37 pm
#5

they really need to lower the action cost on power attack. Lower then the other attack. because atm it charge up and cool down timer make it's extra 100 damage not worth the cost.

but other then that i really like the specials we get. Compaired to TKA special. TKA needs some Fixen. there special attacks are usless...



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LucidRoid
Sun May 01, 2005 7:18 am
#6




I am Master Doc and Master Sword (and now some scout for hunting but need to think about that one). Using the current 10+ % buffs, Adrenal and Serotonin buffs.


The main thing I experience is that the Action cost is too high. Not many adnvanced or i9mproved moves and I am "Too Tired" which makes me vulnerable to almost anything. That is in spite of Brandy to boost Action regen. Admittedly I haven't looked around too much to figure out what food and drink to use.


One cause to I haven't been around to find food / Dring is that too many vendor owners still haven't withdrawn their products all the way into their inventory and put them up again. Why this? Since they need to end up in incentory to get refitted/respeced or whatever. Naturally you can buy the stuff, but you cannot examine it before buy. Spread the word to your Chef & Artisan friends, they need to pull the stuff into their inventory and then up with it again. Cumbersome? Yes, very!


The second thing I have troubles with is defence. I cannot take much damage before I am laying eating grass for a few seconds. Or got have to see the clone structure from inside once more. That is, Taking on someone delivering ranged damage I am in trouble, running after them hinders my strikes, stopping to strike, they move a bit and shoot. Even worse if they got their fellows aggro at me too. Then I am roasted.


"Run away!" "Burst run!" Ya-ya, I know, but what does that help when every hit takes its toll and their range is that far I still cannot get out of range before I eat grass.


Is it my armor, I still on ly have my refitted padded armor and a PSG 1900+ def. See above about the browsing vendor trouble. Ideas? Suggestions? I am all ears, cuz I happen to like to see the sudden terror in the eyes of my opponents



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DarkBShadow
Sun May 01, 2005 7:23 am
#7

I Hated the action system the first time i tried it. However after awhile i got used to it. use melee strik as your auto attack and you will see that you will do alot better. the amount of action it takes of is miscule compaired to your other attacks and sinc eyour regen pool regens so fast you wont have to worry about your action pool draining because of it... i normaly use it when i get into tight binds and run out of action it helps alot both in PvE and PvP.



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LucidRoid
Sun May 01, 2005 7:30 am
#8






DarkBShadow wrote:
I Hated the action system the first time i tried it. However after awhile i got used to it. use melee strik as your auto attack and you will see that you will do alot better. the amount of action it takes of is miscule compaired to your other attacks and sinc eyour regen pool regens so fast you wont have to worry about your action pool draining because of it... i normaly use it when i get into tight binds and run out of action it helps alot both in PvE and PvP.





Yes maybe it is a matter of getting used to the Action system.


There were some icons to choose from and I added them all, but I lack those more generic moves. Only Advanced or Improved are there. Have you guys made iconed one-line macros that you use?


Eagerly awaiting comments in defence, You were a fast and clear writer DarkBShadow /bow3



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Zarqon
Sun May 01, 2005 10:30 am
#9

What would the percentages mean of ability costs mean? say for example you have food that gives you extra action, then it can't be a certain % of your bar that goes down from the special, or you wouldn't get a benefit,but it should rather be some specific value, right?




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grifta
Sun May 01, 2005 10:58 am
#10

Action cost reduction is useless in crafting Cos I have experimented like crazy on Jmkar and the best is to do speed then damage on components then on the final crafting of the weapon do damage then speed makes the best DPS overall.

Regarding specials and your action to keep yourself above water use meleehit/meleestrike and meleeassault if brawler religiously. I use kd/armorbreak and then a power attack whatever you may have then just use meleehit ( which is best overall for damage/cost ) to regain action then rinse repeat.



LucidRoid
Sun May 01, 2005 11:32 am
#11

Thanks for input


I love this actually, before CU it had almost grown to an extent where combat was boring. You knew you were unbeatable, unless it was a Nova EliteTrooper and you didn't realize that until at the clone center. And learning new things is rather fun actually, been away from these forums a while cuz knew what I needed to


Now it is time to get used to it all and to get friends to grop with. Great, since I love grop play.



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KreyMerr
Sun May 01, 2005 2:15 pm
#12

updated



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grifta
Sun May 01, 2005 10:20 pm
#13

Can you clarify that area taunt is indeed broken as all taunt is, I respeced to TKM to get most taunt bonuses and taunt is utterly useless.



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