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Thread: Anyone Master Swords / Master Pike?

chardin
Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:57 pm
#1

well done i like it. however i am not FS and dont plan on getting it for a while.... i JUST started this char so itll be a while till im glowy. but anyways i find that master sowrds master pike is BEASTLY but u need some medic and some defense if u wanna do caves and stuff my template is

matser brawler
master swords
master pikeman
4000 fencer
0040 medic ( i just drop 1 fencer box and get 2030 medic when im going NS elder hunting)

I find i can solo basically anything in the game. and the geo cave is my b!tch with all that ranged + melee defense

but being a speed capped swords AND pikeman would make u insane in PvE (not to mention with my template i can hold my own in pvp stack the dot, area if needed, then hit3 with swords till dizzy and spam head hit 3)

well i also suggest dropping the tka meditatation, everyone gets it but i dont know why. it has no use to me. wounds are pretty easy to get rid of... poison and disease are nice to cure but since u cant heal them while in battle it makes it kinda useless to me, but thats just my 2 cents



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ewano
Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:18 pm
#2


why would u want pike if ur master swords? just wondering it wont make u better in pve or pvp


i would stick with some fencer defences maybe and medic 4030 but in pve the high end mobs gona hit u ne way so medic is importand to stay alive


*edit btw take my sig template solo every mob in the game with great speed and nice defences hardly need heals solo against a giant krayt

Message Edited by ewano on 10-12-2004 05:21 PM



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JRyall
Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:29 pm
#3

Yes, should have explained

it better in my initial post


We've been doing more and

more corvette and Death Watch

stuff over the last while, and I'm

sick of seeing that low electrical

resist and swinging away with

a scythe to get through the 80%

Kinetic


So I was thinking of trying

pike solely for the LVA.


And I agree, there isn't much

a speed capped swordsperson

can't take on by themselves


I'll be giving up a tonne of

Fencer Defences and likely

Meditate to pick up Pike..


Just trying to get some

feedback if anyone thinks

it's worth it.



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ewano
Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:42 pm
#4

elec damage is useful against some mobs yes


but u wont get better alround from it but its worth a try sure


i dont say pike sucks all i mean is pike adds almost no defences to u



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CarlTheWookie
Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:07 pm
#5






JRyall wrote:

Yes, should have explained

it better in my initial post


We've been doing more and

more corvette and Death Watch

stuff over the last while, and I'm

sick of seeing that low electrical

resist and swinging away with

a scythe to get through the 80%

Kinetic


So I was thinking of trying

pike solely for the LVA.


And I agree, there isn't much

a speed capped swordsperson

can't take on by themselves


I'll be giving up a tonne of

Fencer Defences and likely

Meditate to pick up Pike..


Just trying to get some

feedback if anyone thinks

it's worth it.







You aren't going to be that impressed by the damage output of a pikeman in the DWB unless you do two things:


1) speed cap


2) Loot/Buy insane damage LVA or VL.


1k Dam LVLs work nice, esp when you are speed capped. I also swing an 800 dam VL with 300 str Health fire on it. I got tired of being the FOTM Swordsman with stacked Fencer Defs, Swordsman/Rifleman etc.


As others have said, Def vs States and melee/ranged def become rather moot against the big stuff.




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JRyall
Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:46 am
#6

Well? Are ya?


Just wondering what else

you combined with it if you

did.


I want to try pike out, but there

is no way I'm ever giving up

my Master Swords


Master Sword

Master Pike

Master Brawler

TK 4001

Novice Medic.

FS Combat 0034


Any thoughts?





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JRyall
Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:07 am
#7

Thanks for the Advice in

both threads Centurion


This was exactly the kind

of information I was looking

for.


Think I'll put of the pike

experiment untill I can find

a couple of nice speed tapes.


Thanks again for everyones

input.



Osioha Kuro

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Milgram
Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:16 am
#8








CarlTheWookie wrote:


As others have said, Def vs States and melee/ranged def become rather moot against the big stuff.







Ranged/melee defences become moot, but Def vs States is HUGE. Out of 20 krayts and 15 night sister elders i have faught since getting my dizzy and kd defence to 100, i have only ever been dizzy/kded once, and it lasted for about 10 seconds. I still get knocked down occasionaly, proably about 4 times per krayt dragon, but i basically never go down for the count. I rarely get blinded (+80 defence) and i cannot recall being stunned (+100). I always look over at the states in the group and see all kinds of crappy stuff going on with them. Me, on the other hand, i get the occasional state, but they generally clear right up, and i am back to just a little red x next to my name.




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rgrocott
Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:01 pm
#9






ewano wrote:


why would u want pike if ur master swords? just wondering it wont make u better in pve or pvp





I'd agree that Pike won't give you much in PvE, since Swordsman can slaughter most things easily (point taken about DWB though).


However, the big thing that Pikeman gives you in PvP is access to some nasty DoTs that are almost impossible to obtain for Swordsman. Sad fact of the matter is, the vast majority of high-end DoT weapons are pikes of one form or another. Softening up an opponent with various mind DoTs from Pikes, prior to laying in with the pure cranial trauma of swordsman, is tough to stand up against if the opponent isn't something like a Fencer/Doc temploiter.


Of course, 'standing up' might well be the issue, since as you say, the defences of the two combined are fairly puny.





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TenlossDisruptor
Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:06 pm
#10

i was TKM/MSwords/Pikes xx4x/MBrawler/Medic for a while, hunted Krayts/NS et al and hardly ever got Dizzied - helped a lot I found - getting KD'd means nothing when you're not dizzy Best thing about Pikes really is the Dizzy Def



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Protteus
Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:09 pm
#11

Go pike for the pvp. 400 mind ticks with wounds hurt. Then stack em together. Use area2( stun and dizzy) with a mind fire then mind psn and "YOU WIN AT STAR WARS".



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ewano
Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:32 pm
#12






rgrocott wrote:





ewano wrote:


why would u want pike if ur master swords? just wondering it wont make u better in pve or pvp





I'd agree that Pike won't give you much in PvE, since Swordsman can slaughter most things easily (point taken about DWB though).


However, the big thing that Pikeman gives you in PvP is access to some nasty DoTs that are almost impossible to obtain for Swordsman.







from my own expierence u dont need any pike skil to use a pike dot weapon. also isent that u can use a NS lance with pike 3?


tested it on a tusken rifle that i looted (have no marksman) and the poison did hit.







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APEist_theReb
Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:41 pm
#13






Protteus wrote:

Go pike for the pvp. 400 mind ticks with wounds hurt. Then stack em together. Use area2( stun and dizzy) with a mind fire then mind psn and "YOU WIN AT STAR WARS GALAXIES: NOTHING CLOSE TO STAR WARS".






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