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Thread: Is it just me or can swordsman not pvp (dodnt flame for idiocy)
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Squiddie
Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:47 pm
#1
Hmmmmm i dunno if this is the right forum to post this on but here goes. Im a swordsman at equal lvl with my freind pikeman. we duel unarmored and guess what? he kicks my silly squid behind. because in case nobodys noticed they have freakin dizzy kd and he kept doin that all duel and i could never get an attack in. which leaves me with 2 questions. 1 why does everyone think pikeman r so horrible if they ahve the unstoppable dizzy kd. and 2 with swordsman having no stun weapons or good specials despite their pve power is it just me or they seem to be suking in pvp. i mean fencer does stun + has crazy dodge+ the pikeman has dizzy kd and has diesease on a kind of easy to get wepon and tkm has dizzy kd a ton of good specials and is mad fast. oh and before u say "U nOOb u ahve no clue what ur talkin about go back to ur cdef" i am a noob so take that
and im prolly worng just asking. so plz dodnt flame me
thanks for everyone help in advance
AriasImmortal
Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:00 pm
#2
Well, I can PvP... I don't know about most of the other swordsmen on these forums, they seem to think that swordsman is horrible (except for a notable few)
FtB
Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:06 pm
#3
Pick up some dizzy/state defenses from Pistoleer or Fencer if youre having trouble with that.
Message Edited by FtB on 09-12-2004 06:08 PM
Wilber
Sun Sep 12, 2004 6:48 pm
#4
hang in there.
Once you hit master, get some sweet Skill tapes, maybe some FS melee speed...
you'll be a damage machine!
I dueled this fencer the other day, combat log went something like this:
Joe hits you but you counter attack!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage!
Joe hits you but you counter attack!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage!
You have incapacitated Joe
Ssedi
Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:15 pm
#5
Joe hits you but you counter attack!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
Joe hits you but you counter attack!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You have incapacitated Joe
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
Joe hits you but you counter attack!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You have incapacitated Joe
Wilber
Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:17 pm
#6
Ssedi wrote:
Joe hits you but you counter attack!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
Joe hits you but you counter attack!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You use 2H-Head Hit 3 on Joe for 800 damage, but 754 is blocked by armour!
You have incapacitated Joe
JediMizzaster
Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:39 pm
#7
I fought and sent a Dark Jedi Knight packing multiple times today and I used my scythe. I'm a Master Swordsman, Master Brawler, Master Fencer and 3/3/4/0 Medic.
LudosJabbins
Sun Sep 12, 2004 7:53 pm
#8
I use a 460 dmg scythe without a powerup... do like 100 dmg (Head Hit 3) to a stacker, ranged people about 200-500 dmg. It depends on your weapon because everyone either has 80% kinetic armor or Stun Armor with a high Base Effectiveness slice.
My suggestion, Master Teras Kasi with swordsman because if you are laying on your back Dizzy/KDed, equip your Vibro Knuckler because the amount of damage taken in will decrease dramatically due to TKA Toughness.
sirsamson
Mon Sep 13, 2004 10:28 am
#9
look with a good power hammer and some speed attachments they can have 90%blast you will still hit them 2 times a sec for arounr 30-80 dam if not more but that is with 90%. you hit them 2 times each head hit 3 and it takes 1 sec to do the attack when you get close to maxing out your speed. it adds up and the better the power hammer the more lovely it is
jmonty
Mon Sep 13, 2004 11:23 am
#10
i have done a lot better one on one with master brawler. i am looking forward to going hunting as a master brawler/ master swordsman/ master carbineer. i've been playing awhile, but i have just discovered the dizzy reisist drink, ithorian mist i think it is? i hope when that is combined with the kd defense food, and possibly poison/disease reistance food, and finally synthesteak, i may have a chance against tkm,cm,riflemen, ora combination.
btw, don't forget to/center, /intim, or /bu as appropriate!
Gorecki
Mon Sep 13, 2004 2:05 pm
#11
I'm not much of a PvP'er and don't have too much use for it in PvE, but how about food or drinks like Thakitillo or Corellian Brandy ? Wouldn't that be of help ?
Squiddie
Mon Sep 13, 2004 3:15 pm
#12
FtB wrote:
Pick up some dizzy/state defenses from Pistoleer or Fencer if youre having trouble with that.
Message Edited by FtB on 09-12-2004 06:08 PM
yah..i would do that but im also an idiot tailor ( FOR THE HAWTPANTS!) so i got no more sp
Styreta
Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:48 pm
#13
just swordsman?, nothing else..yea, you cant PvP with it
You lack the Kd and dizzy defense to prevent from being on your back every fight.
Depends on what you want really, if you want to just use swordsman, then get 0440 fencer along wiht it, for the KD, lunge and dizzy defenses. If you want a good KD, get TKM. Meditate is really nice for PvE dots and wounds anyway, but KD2 is a gr8 move.
Personally, I hate not being ranged, so I picked up 0440 fencer, and master rifles with it. Hardly any1 can get you down, and if you are down, you get back up in seconds. You go up to someone, warcry them, stick ona few intims, then start smacking them with 2hHit3 until dizzy sticks. Then just do a lunge, or any of the other posture attacks, until they kneel and fallover. Then just wack there mind of. Personally because I have rifles I tend to switch to my jawa and do a flushing shot to stun them, then shoot them in the head till incap.
To sum it up, you need dizzy and KD defense, but posture down defense wouldnt be that much of a luxury. You could get 0040 pistoleer, and have 70 KD and 70 or so Dizzy, or get 0440 fencer. With the two fencer trees you will get dizzy, and both kd and posture down. Prob is offcourse that 0440 fencer is an extra tree compared to the one pistoleer tree, wich takes quite a bit of skill points. Tho offcourse, novice marksman takes 15 skillpoints, so unless you have a ranged prof like I do in rifleman, go with the fencer stuff
Full meleetemplate togo with swordsfor PvP = Master Teras kasi, Swordsman and Brawler, and 1440 fencer for defenses (+ novice med)
A melee and ranged template to go with swords in PvP = Master swordsman, rifleman and 0440 fencer for defenses (+ novice med)
The latter is my temp right now, but Im gonna drop 0440 fencer and get 0040 pistoleer, simply because I save a few skillpoints, That way I can get combat prowess from all the force stuff. The accuracy mods for my rifle and hammer will be gr8, and the speed will help because then I wont have the change clothing with mods to obtain speedcap with eiter 
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