Swordsman Archive
Thread: Is it just me or can swordsman not pvp (dodnt flame for idiocy)
Don_T_Shoot
Tue Sep 14, 2004 2:46 pm
#14
Right now I'm Master Swords/Master Doc and am walking PvE pwnage, but stink to high heavens in PvP. Well I've gotten lucky a few times but normally I just flop around and die. Considering dropping down to novice doc and adding fencer 0440 so that I can meaningfully participate in some PvP battles.
Keuller
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:33 pm
#15
I have MHS/4440 Doc/0002 pikeman. It gets the job done. Lunge with a generic DoT pike, switch to a hammer or scythe and spem hit3 until they're dizzy, lunge with your hammer/scythe, beat on their DoT'd mind.
Squiddie
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:53 pm
#16
i can see all these prof combos working but i went to char builder and i ahve NO points left so o well
also i have sworn never to do tka
. i dodnt hate them but why should a guy with clothing and a knuckler beat the **** out of a guy with 3 inch thick full metal armor, a couple grenades, a rocket launcher, and a flamthower. my head would hurt every day
. but with the foods how much would those cost on average?
Cheesejaguar
Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:28 pm
#17
actually swordsman is quite usefull if you get a few of them to gang up on someone, but its nowhere near the effectiveness of being a Fencer...
garb0
Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:28 am
#18
ive got a PvE swords template really, but should be ok for PvP to hopefully
Master Swords, TKA 4300, Doc 0440
after a 2100 buff and then power boost which also adds 500 to mind
all i have to do is stack mind food and drink for those pesky riflemen and bounty hunters!!
not gunna pvp till i cap my speed tho , need +25 in tapes to cap with a 5.3 speed hammer. gunna cost a small fortune me thinks.
IcydevaroSp
Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:32 am
#19
Against Armoured oppenents I have a real problem (along with me incapping myself to death with mind) but im a 4000 bounty hunter, and 0040 pistolier, and master swordsman with +12 melee speed and accuracy from the force tree's with an 89 thakitillo ihave close to +150 kd defence, and then +65 dizzy defence, the only problem I have is that if i get dizzy'd and and then posture change down (only +30 there) but against jedi's i can solo a knight with only a 434 scythe... I hit at the speed cap and won our PVP tournament in Terra-Firma on Lowca (16 people) I went up against a pistoler bountyhunter, commando, ter kasi master, and another swordsman for the win. The combo of foods I use I got from reginald back when he was a +12 pt Chef was 36% dodge aircake, 36% synthsteak, and then either a. (50 filling vercupti +1015 to health action and mind) or b (if i dont use that I use Snowcake +40 accuracy for them defence stakers and then +89 Thakitillo) along with 2 +420 brandy's!I have about at 60/40 winning streak against jedi's... Terkasi masters I have a lot of trouble with, dont really know what to do about them because some how with +150 kd def, they still knock me down, best solution I have to give you is have a center of being macro, and then intemidate, then dont even try to kd or dizzy them, start on the mind, and work you way down. Remember to type /stand after 1 or 2 seconds and wait untill it says you get up, because if you type /stand when your already up you fall back on your butt, also I found a cheap trick that works MOST of the time, is if they posture change you down, immediatly stop your attacks, and use intemidate and I usually get up without falling back over... Anyways those are just my hints from a Wookie Bounty Hunter on Lowca
-Ory
Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:58 pm
#20
I have a master Swordsman and he can't pvp...He is mostly for pve and this character is for pvp 
Frostrazor
Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:08 pm
#22
Master Swordsman
Master Brawler
Doc 4030
get any mind fire melee weapon then switch back to your hammer for mop up work
st0nedpenguin
Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:07 pm
#23
Frostrazor wrote:
Master Swordsman
Master Brawler
Doc 4030
get any mind fire melee weapon then switch back to your hammer for mop up work
I went for:
Master Swordsman
Fencer 4-4-0-0
Doc 4030
Still able to cure anything, but instead of lunge2, intim2 and warcry2,I have some passable defences, working a treat so far for pve and pvp.
Skwall
Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:25 pm
#24
hmm.. i dunno i pvp,
I actually do fairly well, a 500ish p'up scythe, speed capped, and w/ master docs I lift most states off of me w/ breeze. Mind buffs, stat migrated to mind, muscian buffs, food, armor, PSG,make me pretty tough. I usually fight in groups, but in one on one duels its still very good, I take most fencers pretty easily, but it turns into those 10 mintues + duels (been in one for like half an hour).
Granted there are many better templates out there, such as the annoyance of a cm, or the kiting of a rifleman, or the insane DOTs that Pikeman have, it just depends really. I don't die very often in pvp, but swordsman is better than TKA or most professions in my opinion, depends on how you play, but it is a viable pvp profession, along w/ doc. Doc's nice.
Template:
Master Swords, Master Doctor, FS lines: Melee Accuracy, Melee Speed, Ranged Defense, Melee Defense, Luck (2 boxes, would have 4 but no more skill points).
Glum_Moonfist
Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:51 pm
#25
Its not that we can't pvp, its that we dont have many options in pvp....
Intimidate1
Warcry1
Hit3
Lunge1
HeadHit3
are basically all thats useful to me. I can dizzy with the H3, hope to knock them down with lunge1, and then smash their head in with HH3. Im sure there are a few other moves you could use in place of those above but thats basically all there is to swordsfighting. Smash their mind until they die using headhits!
Intimidate1
Warcry1
Hit3
Lunge1
HeadHit3
are basically all thats useful to me. I can dizzy with the H3, hope to knock them down with lunge1, and then smash their head in with HH3. Im sure there are a few other moves you could use in place of those above but thats basically all there is to swordsfighting. Smash their mind until they die using headhits!
-Phoe-
Thu Sep 16, 2004 6:52 am
#26
If you've got Master Brawler, I recommend picking up a Mind DoT lance to help you drain the mind; FIRE, if at all possible.
If you can spare the skill points, 0040 Pistoleer and Fencer defense lines (0440)make a great acompaniment to Swordsman. GREAT dizzy defense.
And regarding food, nix the thaktilo. Its great for newbs that just Dizzy/KD, but anyone who knows how to play will use lunge on you to lower posture if KD fails. I'd go for dizzy defense over KD defense because of this. Save your food fill on smuggler's delight and Muon 