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Thread: This class absolutely sucks now

Cakins7005
Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:13 pm
#1


Lol, my combat medic alt now does as much damage as my swordsman character in PvE and does a hell of a lot more damage in PvP. I lost to a fencer who didn't even have master brawler. I nailed him with warcry 2, intimidate 2and mindhit 2. He still whopped me with dizzy+posture change. The bleeds are worthless, the swords are inaccurate, and the damage is nothing.

Message Edited by Cakins7005 on 02-11-2004 06:14 PM



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EnvyIsme
Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:08 pm
#2

I agree, isn't the swordsman supposed to be the most powerful? This is my choosen profession since launch, and it is starting to get old. Where is our dot weapons, or anything for that matter. seems to me that the scythe is going to be a big letdown... I hope i am wrong, i am running the missions as i type this. But what good is it without the power cubes? Dev's, please give me a reason to stick around... This is killing me, and i am doing everything i can think of to make myself stronger only to be outdamaged by a TK. Whats the deal???


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IxussFlamethrowerSpeciali
Wed Feb 11, 2004 8:53 pm
#3

The patch doesnt seem to have hurt swordsman all that much. Sure the bleeds are worse, but i havent noticed myself being outdamaged by any other melee classes. Took down 12 rebels in Bestine today solo, most of them i killed in 1-3 mindhits. I realize that i also have carbineer and master brawler, which helps me greatly in PvP, but as far as damage is concerned, nothing has changed as far as i can see.

As to the DoT weapon there is a post here about a Mind Dot Axe avalible from a quest in Jabba's palace (think it is 50 strength, 9k uses)




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Shadusdarkmour
Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:28 pm
#4

Question what weapon do you use?


Im guessing it's a slicedpower hammer experimented for damage/ speed I suggust you start looking at accuracy mods as well as taking into effect on damage mitigation. I know that the two handed ax i know use is giving me results exponential better than the hammer. Also try finding some of the new foods that add to accuracy. I went on a killing spree around coronet tonight most of my victims falling to my ax. Being able to land 250- 300 mind pools hits consectively at speed cap is very devasting as several of my unfortunate victims found out. I even fought several swordsman. Every time they used a power hammer i won big time. Only thing i fear is a composite helm but thats another thing all together.





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Khalaermol
Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:24 pm
#5

Can I have your stuff?



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Cakins7005
Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:02 pm
#6

Well, we all dont stack counter attacks like you do. I haven't played my Swordsman since that incident. An update: Poisons still stack! The devs dont find it overpowering that my cm character can stack poisons for a 1500 mind dot on someone from 98 m away. I guess I might make my main character a crafter now.



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Gimperial666
Wed Feb 11, 2004 11:09 pm
#7

I totally agree myself. Im a master swordsman/0242carbineer (with some TKA4004 and medic4040) I LOVED my bleeds in PvE and PVP... now that they hit a RANDOM bar for the initial and do unnoticable damage for ticks, why use them at all? IF they hit the bar i was intending to bleed with the initial hit(mind in our case) instead i can see it being useful. but as it is why use that over HIT3??

Im not ever grinding again... i spent months of playing for an hour or two a night (ive got a life)to get where i am and i'll quit before I grind somthing else.

But since they took away our bread and butter and replaced it with dung and spit...
I may quit sooner. Im giving this game until the big combat revamp.

You devs have 2 choices with me and others like me. THINK BEFORE YOU ACT or SAY GOODBYE TO MY MONEY.

i really think they just dont care.



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ceptacon
Thu Feb 12, 2004 2:44 am
#8

Give us back our bleeds. Nerfing bleeds has done nothing more than hurt the entire game. It's no longer fun to hunt. Now there's going to be even more TKA.
Vergigorm1990
Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:06 am
#9

I don't think they care either. Seems the Star Wars license makes them feel no obligation to producing a quality product. That's a bit scathing but there are several elements in this game that have been quite simply broken since July. Carbineer chargeshot2 has never worked for example. The trend is not changing. This game is the prettiest in terms of graphics but gameplay is just mediocre, simply put.


We can still PVE better than most if that's your thing so the class doesn't absolutely suck in my opinion.Personally, pickets, rancors, *insert non-krayt non-unique mob of choice* are played out. Mind bleed nerf is pretty severe for PVP. I can stillkill some people because I stack carbine counterattack,which is going away of course. When that goes away, I doubt I'll stay. Could I be a CM/Rifleman?Of course, and I'd kick bootay (kicking bootay is beyond kicking butt). But I don't plan on continuing to pay $15/mo to do something I don't enjoy. I'd go see Lord of the Rings again for that money.


rizor
Thu Feb 12, 2004 9:39 am
#10

I have been a master swordsman for a long time....



I will be dropping master swordsman ASAP..


Nice job SOE



Rizer





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raider7734
Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:05 am
#11




I just want to know why we aresoweak compared to TK.


Look at this.


Take a damage sliced vibro knuckler, 48-198. Average is 123 damage,Unarmed Damage +250 brings it to373. Multiply by 4 for unarmed hit 3, then x 1.86 (standard damage mod for all attacks) and you get 2775 damage per second against Light armor (remember everyone in pvp has light armor, or less). Multiply that by 1.75 if they get you KD first, and the numbers get really scary, over 4800...every second!


Swordsman? I won't bore you with the calculations, be we can do a whopping 1610 DPS against Light armor, and we'll miss a lot more, so we're in worse shape than the numbers indicate.


TK: 2775 DPS


Swordsman: 1610 DPS


Tell me, what is our great advantage that justifies us being so much weaker in damage output?


Do we have excellent ranged and melee defense? NO


Do we have great accuracy?NO


Can we specifically target any HAM pool? NO


Can we Stun anything? NO


Can we Blind anything? NO


Can we Dizzy anything? 1 time in 3... if you're lucky!


Do we have a knockdown? NO, unless you spend 48 more points on Master Brawler


Can we Powerboost? NO


Can we Force of Will? NO


Can we heal wounds? NO


Can we heal disease? NO


Can we heal poison? NO


Are we nearly unaffected by damage mitigation? NO (that perk belongsto TK, of course)


Can we bleed things? HA!That just went out the window...



Why are we so weak?


Where is the balance?


The answer:there isno balance...only NERFS for us,Pikeman, and Fencer!


/rant off





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Vergigorm1990
Thu Feb 12, 2004 10:22 am
#12

You forgot to mention do we have toughness of 60+? NO
ivossk
Thu Feb 12, 2004 11:20 am
#13

I am sooooooo sick of the teras comparison. WEAR ARMOR!!!! there are few swordsmen/pikemen I can think of that went into battle without armor!! Think of samurai, knights, massai tribes men with thier spears!. you have med armor pierce, they have light. get 70-80% kinetic resist armor, hit cob and handle buisness. When I had medic skills, I whooped teras' butt ALL THE TIME. and now that I have mastered every melee prof except fencer, I can tell you that none of them are weak. But you must change your tactics as you go. Heck 90% of all teras masters I dueled never even hit warcry while I was knocked down, and don't use COB! most of them don't know what they are doing! so.. just try it! also... why are we standing infront of them all the time? If I stood infront of my opponents in real life my sifu would kill me. go in and out of range, use a rock and a tree every now and then. mix it up! Idon't mean run, but mess up their timing jeeez! there is ALOT more to fighting besides dps... infact only the unskilled RELY on dps. try different weapons! try anything! that is the fun to fighting! oh and buy my high quality accurate weapons on gorath lol!! I had to do it!! I'm sorry...
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