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Thread: To kill an elder ..... help

Playermaster
Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:10 am
#1

Am master sword, 4/4/3/0 TKA, and currently master smuuggler. Went up against my first elder the other day and was losing badly so i got outta dodge. Used my hammer of course for the blast damage, but did very little damage as I was only in the battle a minute or so. Whats the best way to approach an elder with this template, or is it realistic to expect to solo one at all. Can do several protectors at a time with little prob, but when i took on the elder alone, was no match. Any advice is appreciated.
MasterShacklefurd
Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:14 am
#2

If your not speed capped it's gonna take a while, and make sure you have 80% kin comp/double brandy/ahisra or canape.


I just go up lay some intim 2's then a couple mind bleeds and spam hit3. Keeping intim and bleed on it takes me about 8 minutes to take an elder.





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Nik
SoR/Mazi/RECON/H4KD
60 Warrior- Thunderlord
Mikhail24
Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:19 am
#3

Without Novice Medic you're in for quite a challenge



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Jubilex
Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:55 am
#4

Here are my suggestions:


1. Don't waste composite fighting Nightsisters. 75% Ubese is way cheaper and almost as effective. Elders beat the hell outta armor.


2. You must go all out on your buffs, including a musician/dancer buff, brandy, arisa/canape. Consider sythsteak as well.


3.Make sure that CoB and Intimidate are active at all times. Mind bleed and Mind Hit 3 from there.


4. Don't fight Elders at all. They are a huge waste of time in my book. You can kill many lesser sisters in the time it takes to down one Elder. Sure, you may get a sweet bit of loot out of it, but it's so rare that it's like playing the lottery. And, as we all know, the lottery isa tax on people that don't know math.
Nealoc187
Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:26 am
#5

I kill elders not even wearing full armor all the time on my alt, who is anything but stacked, or speed capped, etc.

I use normal doc buffs, no music or musician buffs. I don't wear full armor, I wear 80% helmet, chestplate, gloves and boots. I never have to heal, as 95% of the time when they hit you they hit one of those 4 body parts and your. Keep the lady intimidated, or else you will have to heal yourself. You can do it with or without a CoB macro going, I've just recently started usinc CoB on my swordsman character (use it all the time on my fencer but never really bothered to on my swordsman). 2 brandy and an ahrisa (or canape) or just 3 brandy is plenty of mind stats for you, that you won't need to go through all the crap of getting full mind buffs like the others are insisting is necessary, trust me, it's really not. Though it would go faster with speed tapes, I don't have any, I use a 3.4spd 145-483dmg hammer (that's a 34% speed slice on a 5.1spd hammer) and I drop them in about 12 minutes.

All that being said, I find elders to be a huge waste of time. Yes there is the "possibility" of getting a super weapon or skill attachment off of one, however that possibility is so remote that I rarely bother with them. Protectors, weavers, sentinels, drop the same sort of stuff and are much easier to kill (you can drop a weaver in about 10-12 seconds for example, as opposed to 12 minutes for a non-capped swordsman using a perfectly sliced hammer). I've killed tons of elders, not because I kill a million a day but because I've been killing nightsisters from day one, and the best loot I've ever recieved from on was a force crystal... :/



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MasterShacklefurd
Fri Jul 16, 2004 6:47 am
#6






Mikhail24 wrote:

Without Novice Medic you're in for quite a challenge






No medic here, with intim 2 I have no need for it




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Nik
SoR/Mazi/RECON/H4KD
60 Warrior- Thunderlord
w00tuberewok
Fri Jul 16, 2004 7:51 am
#7

What about us wookiees? any chance in hell we can solo if we wore armor it would be gone in a couple shots..



Pingo the all mighty wookiee god...o yea Mingo uses this too because his retarded friend got his account banned
PadiOne
Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:20 am
#8

You have to intimdate it. This has got to be the part you were missing. Without intimidate you last 2 min or less



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HitWoman
Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:30 am
#9






Jubilex wrote:

Here are my suggestions:


1. Don't waste composite fighting Nightsisters. 75% Ubese is way cheaper and almost as effective. Elders beat the hell outta armor.





I agree with this partially. Use Composite for the body and arms and go with Ubese the rest of the way.
Blackheart1222
Fri Jul 16, 2004 8:47 am
#10



PadiOne wrote:
You have to intimdate it. This has got to be the part you were missing. Without intimidate you last 2 min or less




Yeah if you use intimidate you will do a lot better. I have the same setup just instead of 4430 in TKA its 4404. I can solo them just fine, But it takes a long to kill one.



Ravens Claw
PadiOne
Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:25 am
#11






HitWoman wrote:





Jubilex wrote:

Here are my suggestions:


1. Don't waste composite fighting Nightsisters. 75% Ubese is way cheaper and almost as effective. Elders beat the hell outta armor.





I agree with this partially. Use Composite for the body and arms and go with Ubese the rest of the way.







I can get a full suit of ubese for 75k on my server. Our economy is very low due to not having alot of credit duping. We came on line a couple weeks after all the other servers.


At any rate, I wear all ubese due to the lower encumbrance. On a good day, I can beat down an elder without using any stims. I have recently taken up medic for good measure though. One set of ubese is only good for about 3 elders though. At that point, you'll need another jacket. You'll go through 1 pair of pants for every 3 jackets and 1 helm for every 5 jackets. I generally loot 500k worth of stuff in the time i go through 150k worth of armor.




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PadiOne
Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:29 am
#12






w00tuberewok wrote:

What about us wookiees? any chance in hell we can solo if we wore armor it would be gone in a couple shots..







You can never solo anything. You'll be equal to everyone else when the Combat Revamp is complete next xmas. Then we'll all have to group just like wookies.



Side note: I really hope that they take wookie armor back out at the combat revamp and actually make you guys tougher so you don't need it.




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HitWoman
Fri Jul 16, 2004 10:30 am
#13



PadiOne wrote:


HitWoman wrote:


Jubilex wrote:
Here are my suggestions:
1. Don't waste composite fighting Nightsisters. 75% Ubese is way cheaper and almost as effective. Elders beat the hell outta armor.

I agree with this partially. Use Composite for the body and arms and go with Ubese the rest of the way.



I can get a full suit of ubese for 75k on my server. Our economy is very low due to not having alot of credit duping. We came on line a couple weeks after all the other servers.

At any rate, I wear all ubese due to the lower encumbrance. On a good day, I can beat down an elder without using any stims. I have recently taken up medic for good measure though. One set of ubese is only good for about 3 elders though. At that point, you'll need another jacket. You'll go through 1 pair of pants for every 3 jackets and 1 helm for every 5 jackets. I generally loot 500k worth of stuff in the time i go through 150k worth of armor.






Ugh, yeah if it were that cheap here I'd do the same. I pay abt 75k per piece on my server. As you say, the jackets don't last long and I go through one every 3 Elders or so.
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