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Thread: Gorecki : Urgent Sword AR2 CONFIRMED

MorpheusDreamweaver
Thu Aug 14, 2003 6:25 am
#1

Did anyone look at their Curved 2 handed swords? AP is MEDIUM.


Thats right folks. I am about to eat crow -you all were right. 2H Curved has MEDIUM AP. What this means? One of two things


1) 2h Curved is going to be nerfed


2) Power Hammer NEEDS a HUGE boost.


Why on gods green earth would I want to do less damage slower? The only answer is you are doing blast damage, but is blast damage really worth the 1 attack for every 4?






Sitherain Sil'Aaar
Starsider
Gorecki
Thu Aug 14, 2003 7:52 am
#2

yep..seen that too, Morph.


I wonder where the new weapons and what kind will be added to our tree.





Master Swordsman / Master Smuggler
Jirimar
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:07 am
#3

what the heck is AP? and what does it do?



- I support the proper use of common sense when it comes to re-developing games which are nearly two years into their tenure...evidently this sentiment is not shared by those that finance this game.
MorpheusDreamweaver
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:11 am
#4

Armor piercing affects damage you do on a scale from 0 (none) to 3(heavy) with 1(light) and 2(medium) in the middle


All PC armor has a rating of 1 (light)


If your AP rating is equal to the target you do full damage


If your AP rating is LESS THAN the target you do 50% damage BEFORE armor absorb is calculated for EACH LEVEL below.


If your AP rating is GREATER THAN the target you do 25% more damage BEFORE armor absorb is caclulated for EACH LEVEL above.


Example


I have a weapon that shoots for 100 damage in the following scenarios :


AP 0 vs no armor - 100 damage


AP 1 vs no armor - 125 damage


AP 1 vs armor 1 - 100 damage- absorb


AP 0 vs Armor 1 - 50 damage - absorb


AP 2 vs Armor 1 - 125 damage - absorb


AP 3 vs Armor 1 - 156 damage - absorb


AP 0 vs Armor 3 - 12 damage - absorb



See?




Sitherain Sil'Aaar
Starsider
SharkyGreene
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:13 am
#5

When I examine a weapon does it display this anywhere?

When I con an enemy, does it show this?



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MorpheusDreamweaver
Thu Aug 14, 2003 8:20 am
#6

Not sure about conning an enemy but your weapon will now (post patch) display an "armor piercing" rating. ALL pc armor is value 1 - the only time you will find creatures with armor 2 or more is mobs like big creatures.



Sitherain Sil'Aaar
Starsider
atimes
Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:06 am
#7

I believe the hunting line from the scout tree gives you the ability to con creatures and see their weaknesses. I have hunting IV and see a very detailed layout ofa creature when I con. Of course I didn't find out about effectiveness and armor UNTIL I got hunting IV so I can't remember if it showed it at noob levels or not.


When I con a creature I get it's condition, armor rating, effectiveness vs damage types with percentages, special protections and vulnerabilities. Can anyone without hunting IV verify if you get this information at noob levels?

MorpheusDreamweaver
Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:39 am
#8

At hunting 2 I only get absorb resists and aggressive yes/no and hide bone type.



Sitherain Sil'Aaar
Starsider
Verhoffin
Thu Aug 14, 2003 9:59 am
#9

Power Hammer should have Heavy AP.
Ksyick
Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:21 am
#10

DO NOT HAVE THEM NERF THE 2H CURVED. It is the only cool sword we have... I am not the type the likes the idea of the HUGE axe or HUGE hammer.. Im not a dwarf...



K'ysick Baenre
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raider7734
Thu Aug 14, 2003 11:45 am
#11

Here's what I see happening: the 2h curved sword is nowlower in the skill tree, suggesting that it is atraining up weapon, and will likely be nerfed to AR0.


Moving up from there, we have the 2h cleaver withAR1, and maybe it won't suck too bad if the sword core problem gets ironed out (maybe it is already)


I don't know anything about vibro axes or scythes so I'll ignore those.


Now, what we will need is a sword, our signature weapon,to replace the 2h curved. Its certification should be in the Swordsman skill tree somewhere, and it should beno less than AR1,preferably AR2.Most importantly though,the damage output needs to be right up there,so as not to gimp our profession. As swordsmen, we are not super tough, but our compensation is good damage output,whichhelps us surviveby killing things quicker than they kill us.


Also, I think the power hammer should be AR3...a hit from one of those things should be like a bomb going off.





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MorpheusDreamweaver
Thu Aug 14, 2003 1:03 pm
#12

I would MUCH prefer to have the Power Hammer increased rather than the 2 handed curved decreased but one or the other needs to happen - we cant have it as it is.



Sitherain Sil'Aaar
Starsider
Verhoffin
Thu Aug 14, 2003 2:58 pm
#13

Power Hammer should be AR3, plain and simple.
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