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Thread: gabe love the scythe but HAM cost on the thing is way too high.
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haun
Wed Feb 25, 2004 3:31 pm
#1
maybe if it had some other kind of dmg besides kinetic....
but its the same ham cost as a hammer if not more with a lower max dmg.
i don't get it.
guess everybody has to be buffed all the time haha
i am on booster blue and still barly keeping up with the dmg to myself haha
Message Edited by haun on 02-25-2004 02:33 PM
Message Edited by haun on 02-25-2004 02:50 PM
Swordmaster_VII
Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:56 pm
#2
I havent tried this yet but i dont see why it wouldnt work. If you can find some of thatfood (i dont remember the name) that boosts your all your secondary stats related to HAM costs that should help a lot and bring the costs down a bunch. But still the HAM costs are rediculously high if your not buffed or on food, we shouldnt have to get buffed or eat food just so we can swing around our weapon. Give us HAM costs mitigation or something for crying out loud. /endrant
StGabriel
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:29 pm
#3
Well it was reduced once. If you use buffs it does go down quite a bit and compared to other weapons it really isn't that bad. But keep me posted on what you guys think as more of these get made. Also though, it's important to note that we're probably going to see a revamp to HAM usage once we have the combat rebalance.
StGabe.
StGabe.
Cakins7005
Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:32 pm
#4
Gabe wrote:
"Well it was reduced once. If you use buffs it does go down quite a bit and compared to other weapons it really isn't that bad. But keep me posted on what you guys think as more of these get made. Also though, it's important to note that we're probably going to see a revamp to HAM usage once we have the combat rebalance."
Will this "revamp" of HAM usage be like the "revamp" of warcry and bleeds?
haun
Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:15 pm
#5
yah.
i was thinking about the combat revamp.
but still 50/60/40 is a lot!!
i had 800 quickness with booster blue and i was loosing ham very fast.
i wish the game was so that you didn't have to buff to pvp or pve.
but with my powerhammer and some well placed foods i could get my ham cost low enough to do some decent things.
i think it's a bit high.
but it's still fun
cincoalto
Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:38 pm
#6
I was just reading through this forum cause i was thinking about going swordsmen, i m a master riflemen at the moment, just thought i would say that those ham costs are pretty much the same as a T21, if not less (of course the 70+ one is always in mind, but otherwise very close). And at master we fire pretty much at 1 second so welcome to my world of food and drugs 
they do wonders!!
they do wonders!!
haun
Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:46 pm
#7
t21 has about 200 more max dmg points
heavy armor piercing and can shoot from 60m out.
plus a riflemen gets a lot more accuracy and speed than we do.
PLUS they have double our melee defense.
so no - it isn't like a T21 at all.
gives us heavy armor piercing and better mods to go with it - not to mention more max dmg and ill agree that 160 ham cost is worth it.
DeMoNIght
Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:54 pm
#8
A scythe made with good cores and Awsoem matrials with have a mind cots of 32 not that bad im vry happy with it No complants from me the ppl whinin had **edit**ty stuff and a Crappy Weapon smith
haun
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:01 pm
#9
yah thanks for the input haha.
i havent made my uber scythe yet so i can't say.
im playing with one i bought waiting for my weaponsmith to log on.
FtB
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:11 pm
#10
Aren't you using the new Vasarian Brandy, Haun?
On Chilastra you can get it with +440 to mind/focus/wp. Only 49 filling. Last around 45 minutes too.
So if you wait about 60 seconds after taking that, you can stack another one, giving you almost +900 to all mind stats.
Then if you wait a bit longer for your bladder to empty a little, you can stack a third, giving you 1200 for all mind stats.
Its pretty nice
Edit - Not to mention stacking Muon and Music/Dancer buffs ontop of that.
On Chilastra you can get it with +440 to mind/focus/wp. Only 49 filling. Last around 45 minutes too.
So if you wait about 60 seconds after taking that, you can stack another one, giving you almost +900 to all mind stats.
Then if you wait a bit longer for your bladder to empty a little, you can stack a third, giving you 1200 for all mind stats.
Its pretty nice
Edit - Not to mention stacking Muon and Music/Dancer buffs ontop of that.
Message Edited by FtB on 02-25-2004 07:14 PM
FtB
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:13 pm
#11
....as for Health/Action related stats - I barely ever get a Doctor buff below 2000. This totally negates any heath or action costs, even with Hammer.
haun
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:17 pm
#12
im aware of buffs and food
just getting tired of getting buffed everytime i want to use my weapon or do anything for that matter.
but i guess everybody is in the same boat.
Artrus
Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:46 pm
#13
Witout buffs you kill yourself withthe scythe in like 4 swings making the speed on the scythe absolutely usuless.
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