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Thread: m.swords/m.brawler/tkm/medic 0040

imhigh2
Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:09 pm
#1

hows this for temp for krayts and elders. can u guys give me imput on why this is good and why this is bad.



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GaranLondo
Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:11 pm
#2

And qood armor / weapon / buffs / skills and a lil luck wouldn't hurt



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HottiJedi
Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:20 pm
#3

If you are going against elders and krayts, you are going to need good defense vs. kd and defense vs. dizzy. I believe the template you proposed only gives +25 defense vs. dizzy and +45 defense vs. kd. I currently have a toon with mswords/mbrawler/fencer 0440/pistols 0040/medic 1030. That template works out great for soloing high-end mobs since you get +100 defense vs. dizzy and +120 defense vs. kd, plus other great defenses.
AnimalMagnet
Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:34 pm
#4

/agree with above poster. Also neither of your templates address the strong bleeds that NS Elders can give. You need medic 2.x.x.x for firstaid!

-O
AspiringBountyHunter
Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:35 pm
#5






HottiJedi wrote:

If you are going against elders and krayts, you are going to need good defense vs. kd and defense vs. dizzy. I believe the template you proposed only gives +25 defense vs. dizzy and +45 defense vs. kd. I currently have a toon with mswords/mbrawler/fencer 0440/pistols 0040/medic 1030. That template works out great for soloing high-end mobs since you get +100 defense vs. dizzy and +120 defense vs. kd, plus other great defenses.






KD/dizzy defense can be taken care of by food.


I'd drop the power line in TKA and pick up medic 4040. Elders have a nasty habit of stcking bleeds on you and the first aid is pretty much required. Plus the extra injury treatment will help out some too when you have to stim up.



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HottiJedi
Thu Jan 20, 2005 4:44 pm
#6


You can take thakitillo for defense v. kd, but it has about 50 filling and only lasts about 12 minutes. I believe Ithorian myst gives about +18 defense to dizzy, and has about 15 filling. With only 25 defense v. dizzy, the small amount extra from Ithorian Mystwont help him muchagainst an elder or krayt. I agree about needing first aid for the bleeds though.


My advice would be to maximize your defenses, and be sure to have good armor and buffs. If you have a stacked template with veryhigh defenses to blind, dizzy, kd, stun, etc., you will be solidon your feet and should remain unstated without needing food. Also, its great to have extra stomach room for foods like ahrisa, canape, synthsteak and exoprotein wafers.

Message Edited by HottiJedi on 01-20-2005 04:05 PM

SkullBreaker
Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:33 pm
#7

Well the temp I have is Master Brawler, Master Swordsman, 4440 fencer, 0004 TK and 2240 medic and fs melee speed and I do very well against elders and kryats. The fencer gives you all the state defence you'll need and TK and fencer melee defence with master brawler will give you 156 melee defence. With that you'll have 90 dodge and 100 counterattack, with cob running (and you should be running it all the time when you are going after high end stuff as a safety net) you'll be pretty hard to hit. As far as TKM, or the meditate line go, why, swordsman will always out dmg TKs against the ns and kryats with thier armor rating and the lack of ap of unarmed, you'll be better off just having the conditioning line of TK.



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AspiringBountyHunter
Thu Jan 20, 2005 5:39 pm
#8






SkullBreaker wrote:

Well the temp I have is Master Brawler, Master Swordsman, 4440 fencer, 0004 TK and 2240 medic and fs melee speed and I do very well against elders and kryats. The fencer gives you all the state defence you'll need and TK and fencer melee defence with master brawler will give you 156 melee defence. With that you'll have 90 dodge and 100 counterattack, with cob running (and you should be running it all the time when you are going after high end stuff as a safety net) you'll be pretty hard to hit. As far as TKM, or the meditate line go, why, swordsman will always out dmg TKs against the ns and kryats with thier armor rating and the lack of ap of unarmed, you'll be better off just having the conditioning line of TK.






The 90 dodge is only going to help you as long as you have a pistol or fencer weapon equipped. As long as you're holding your 2 hand weapon, you won't dodge. Meditate can be useful for powerboost.



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Bockeroo
Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:11 pm
#9

i dont think master tka is needed. my template was almost identical to that except i had medic 2x2x. tka was nice because of meditate, but that was the only thing that i liked about it because i always used my sword skills. i suggest dropping master tka and just get the meditate tree and dabbling in fencer for some higher defenses



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imhigh2
Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:12 pm
#10

aight, so u guys got me thinking, i might change to m, brawler/m.swords/tk 4004 / medic 2040/ fencer 0440. and have a couple sp left over. the main reason i wanted tkm was because of the versitility w/ pvp also, and the fact that im probably not going to hunt solo a lot. But I have my jedi for pvp I guess.



one more question tho. if i do my original temp I posted and hunt with a tkm/ rifleman, we would rip through krayts and elders correct?



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AnimalMagnet
Thu Jan 20, 2005 6:21 pm
#11

one more question tho. if i do my original temp I posted and hunt with a tkm/ rifleman, we would rip through krayts and elders correct?



Yes you'll kill them much faster. But since you'll betanking the same principles will still apply -- still need to have some decent state def and firstaid.

-O
imhigh2
Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:02 pm
#12

thanks guys for all the info, this is going tohelp a lot.



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Gidas89
Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:27 pm
#13

im using a very simular temp for PvE! master brawler/swordsman(speedcapped and acc capped helps alot)/fencer and 4140 in medic and then some fs boxes!! that is a good template for both PvE and PvP imo



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