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Thread: Novice Doc or Master Brawler

Jasef
Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:48 pm
#1

To compliment Swords/TKM...



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bikebum
Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:17 am
#2

Forget Mbrawler, it adds nothing to your template since all your specials from swords will be better than Melee Assault and Riposte stance only lasts 1 hit. Not worth the skillpoints unless you plan on getting some pike...
ShadowJJ
Tue Jun 21, 2005 8:39 am
#3


Master Brawler may not add offensive strikes but it adds quite a bit of extra modifiers (accuracy, speed, defense). If you can do MTK, Doc 4004 you can get either: MBrawler with Sword 0034 or just Sword 1444. I wonder if the extra Sword specials are worth it or do you get enough specials with 0034 and add the MBrawler modifiers?


I would like MSword but I really like the abilities Doc 4004 give you and the Innate Armor of a MTK. This won't be the best damage dealing template as PH won't be availble but from all the forum reading I've done it seems that the Scyth or Katern Knuckles will be pretty close in damage.


This make sense? I haven't play MSword so I might be way off here - advice is requested!!!

Purefear
Tue Jun 21, 2005 1:09 pm
#4

My template is Master TK/Master Swordsman/Doctor 4000. With this template and some good food i can take on a Master LS/Master Def/ Healer 4000 Jedi. You have to watch your mind and action, but if you do it correctly it can be done.


Spamming Specials = Death in PvP, you have to watch your action/mind if you want to be effective.


As far as the Knuckles of Katarn being better then Power Hammer or N-K Executer they are no match for the swords. I have the knuckles of Katarn and i hit for alot less with those then i do with my swords. You notices a big damage diffrence in PvP.


My advice to you is to definatly get master swordsman if you plan on doing good damage.



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ShadowJJ
Tue Jun 21, 2005 2:05 pm
#5


Thank youfor your input - it helps a lot!


Based on all I've read it seems thatDoc 4000 or 0004 with MSword is the way to go with PvP but for PvE or group PvP I might be better off with theDoc 4004 and play with which levels of sword - determining if Head Hit is better than Power Hit and determine 4144 or 4414 (I think I got those right).


Now it's just determining what I want to do!! Thanks again.


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bikebum
Wed Jun 22, 2005 12:53 am
#6

MBrawler gives some additional speed and def stats from +5 to +10 above having TKM, doc 4xx4, sword 1444. However I feel you lose some offensive ability by the loss of a full elite tree in sword. It depends on the specials you like. Add to that is the fact that TKM, doc 4xx4, MBrawl, Sword xx34 is only CL 75 versus the other template being CL80...


To answer the original post though, IMO with Msword + TKM, you would gain more from Doc 4xxx or Doc xxx4 than you would from the +5 to 10 stats from Mbrawl. Heck, doc xxx4 will give you more stats than Mbrawl could on any given day just in the speed department alone (essentially anyweapon speed +40).

Message Edited by bikebum on 06-21-2005 02:57 PM

Jasef
Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:54 pm
#7

Well, I've got an exceptional hammer.... MSwords is a must... thinking Mswords/TKM/Doc xxx4 now...



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Stealer-In
Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:32 pm
#8

switch off between a good 1.1k max PH and n-k sword, if you do it right you can just pound amazing damage



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bikebum
Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:57 pm
#9







Jasef wrote:
Well, I've got an exceptional hammer.... MSwords is a must... thinking Mswords/TKM/Doc xxx4 now...




After further testing (i am in continuous /respec bug), I have found that the xxx4 doc buffs are far outclassed by most food / drink available these days and feel it may be wasted skillpoints. I am very heavily leaning toward TKM, Msword, 4xxx Doc as a great PvE template. The buffs that I feel are very nice are the mind and attack speed buffs as the action and health buffs are minimal (10%). Even with enhancers your buffs at xxx4 are not as impressive as most of the food / drink out there. We will also have to see what happens once the doc improvements are put in place, but I think they are improving the healing line and not the buffing line.
Skodi
Sat Jun 25, 2005 1:12 pm
#10



I was wondering if i should take mswords mpike tka 4-1-0-0 and master brawler and medic 0-2-1-0 or mswords mpike and doc 4-0-0-0 medic 4-1-4-1

Message Edited by Skodi on 06-26-2005 02:58 AM



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bikebum
Sat Jun 25, 2005 5:30 pm
#11






Skodi wrote:

I was wondering if i should take mswords mpike tka 4-1-0-0 and master brawler or mswords mpike and doc 4-0-4-0 medic 4-1-4-1





I don't understand your question. Msword + Mpike only has points left for 4xxx doc or Novice combat medic....
TXwarrior
Sun Jun 26, 2005 12:52 am
#12






Purefear wrote:

My template is Master TK/Master Swordsman/Doctor 4000. With this template and some good food i can take on a Master LS/Master Def/ Healer 4000 Jedi. You have to watch your mind and action, but if you do it correctly it can be done.


Spamming Specials = Death in PvP, you have to watch your action/mind if you want to be effective.


As far as the Knuckles of Katarn being better then Power Hammer or N-K Executer they are no match for the swords. I have the knuckles of Katarn and i hit for alot less with those then i do with my swords. You notices a big damage diffrence in PvP.


My advice to you is to definatly get master swordsman if you plan on doing good damage.






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Skodi
Sun Jun 26, 2005 2:57 am
#13






bikebum wrote:





Skodi wrote:

I was wondering if i should take mswords mpike tka 4-1-0-0 and master brawler or mswords mpike and doc 4-0-4-0 medic 4-1-4-1





I don't understand your question. Msword + Mpike only has points left for 4xxx doc or Novice combat medic....





sorry edited it now



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