Swordsman Archive

you don't see a lot of these around.

most people go powerhammer or 2 hand curve sword.

i love powerhammers myself, but cleavers are really nice.

they do more damage than 2 hand curve swords and are almost as fast, plus the 40 percent wound is really cool.

in the hands of a master they are very very fast. and they don't eat action like 2 hand curve swords.

plus they really look sweet.

What is the Armour Piercing on a Cleaver?

I use cleavers to destroy lairs when i dont want PH durability to run out, does that count? I usually go for mind attacks and PH is superior their so thats y =)

I agree, the cleaver is a nice weapon. Most over look it. They don't have more max damage than a curved, bit have a higher min damage so they output a more stable damage. The HAM costs aren't too badeither, plusCleavers look awesome. Also, someone asked what thearmor piercing is on them, it is medium piercing.

I use the cleaver for everything except inflicting mind bleeds and bashing turrets.

I've only got two choices - The Bad Cleaver or the Looted Power Hammer. . . Cleaver wins every time

There's been so many times when people have said to me "Hey, thatsa nice weapon, what is it and how do I get it?" - I think it breeds interest into the glorius style of the Heavy Swordsman. . .

hmm..the unswung weapon of the master swordsmen?

Ok, I'm done.

I love the cleaver, use it more then the curved sword. Why?

well, it does have worse range mods...but, its relatively fast, and when sliced can get around 129-283 damage. Great wounds in the 40s%, and stable ham in action and health. Not bad mind ham either.

I find that I like this weapon overall mainly because of the minimum damage. A weapon that has 100-200 damage is far superior than one with 80-220 damage. your guaranteed higher damaged minimully so overall your damage output will be higher, or should I say, much more consistent.

My dream weapon would be to have a weapon that only had 1 stat for damage with no range. That way i woudl know exactly how much damage I would do and when...

relatively fast? are you kidding?

Aren't they around 3.4s unsliced? (unsure about this, as i've only ever bought em for the looks).

My fastest hammer is 3.4s, with 473max.

A cleaver sliced for damage up to 283, like you said, dosn't even nearly compare.

Even if its only for kinetic damage, the 3.4 speed is pretty terrible compared to a 2hCurved. The Special move time multipliers would suck.


That said.. I've never used one for any length of time. The speed stat and low max are a real turn off..

well like i forgot to mention and others have - the low min damage on a curved sword makes a diff.

max damage isn't really an indicator of how much damage the weapon will do.

if you do more stable mid range damage with a fast weapon you do more damage.

yes curved swords are faster - but at master it doesn't matter much. the powerhammer is a bit slower at master unless you get some mods.

and the ham costs are better.

i find they have a much better overall performance at master.

i like the UNSWUNG comment btw

cleavers sux

the negitive stats for range make it very weak, my two handed sowrds are twice as fast and deal more damage then any cleaver out there can thats sliced, Ill take that pepsi challenge anyday

Krayt enhanced cleaver.....175-311 1.7 speed, plus looks cooler, i dont use, looks good on my wall.

well dont get me wrong - i use a powerhammer 80 percent of the time.

i use cleavers for fun and so i wont outdamage everybody.

2 hand curved swords suxors.

it takes like 3 weeks to kill something and you're hitting 3 times as much.

oh yah and your action pool is gone!