Swordsman Archive

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KreyMerr wrote:
working on this

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demonbane423 wrote:

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KreyMerr wrote:
working on this

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hey i was just posting trying to find you,,,, I knew you had gotten hurt and were in the hospital,,, I hope all is well but im glad you are back,,, Was hopeing you would return soon to help lobby for us and to hopefully try to organize some new threads on dmg and specials hehe,,, everything work out well?

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KreyMerr wrote:

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demonbane423 wrote:

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KreyMerr wrote:
working on this

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hey i was just posting trying to find you,,,, I knew you had gotten hurt and were in the hospital,,, I hope all is well but im glad you are back,,, Was hopeing you would return soon to help lobby for us and to hopefully try to organize some new threads on dmg and specials hehe,,, everything work out well?

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Yeah im here. I have spent most of my free time over the last few days just trying to get adjusted to CU. While I was out I did post stuff to the devs still.

The hammer issue is at the top of my list, but im not sure it can be fixed.

In order for me to fill you all in first I actually need to be told something, then I need to get permission to post it here. So rest assured, I am fighting behind the scenes, and as soon as I can pass anything along I will.

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KreyMerr wrote:
Yeah im all for assuming speed cap pre-cu and then converting based on DPS instead of speed-speed damage-damage. This would be the correct way to do it. But seeing as how the CU is live, I dont know if we can get any love here.

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I think this is resolveable - it we get enough pressure (key is the yellow names in inv for weapons that had a pup applied)]

In all the above conversions the converted weapon is around 20 to 30% worse then the newly crafted identical item. This for Nalai caused the problem that all current stock will just have to be deleted as it is no longer even within ball park of the new standard.

But the issue is in no way limited to standard weapons. (Here is where my own interest comes in I have to admit). I have a scatter that has converted into a 287 DPS unit; the issue is that this was no ordinary scatter. Made with +200 tissues it was within the top 5% of DPS, but as soon as I start looking around I find that this just equals newly crafted weapons without enhancement, but also weapons with far inferior stats pre CU (but had pup applied) have seen to be converted with far higher DPS (I saw 318 DPS units from weapons made with +70 tissues).

The list goes on if you read the 'in live' conversion forums where identical weapons have received drastically different conversions just dependent on the presence of a pup. For example I think of the 750 max dam T21 getting surpassed by the 535 max T21 or on Gorath the 540 max dam DE-10 that was surpassed by two separate 400 max dam weapons, in all these cases the lower weapons had the pup applied. (For the sake of the people posting 'in live' where they have seen there pride items destroyed because they were pup less)

The resolution I would propose is that all weapons that were wrongly converted now receive an across the board 20% increase in min and max damage. This should be possible as for some reason we do not understand all these weapons also ended up with the yellow lettering normally reserved for some loot weapon drops. This would provide the required lift to the stock many WS are now otherwise going to have to destroy, and go a long way to balance the enhanced weapons many of us have, where we have seen the ‘best will still be the best’ rule thrown out of the window. Using this formula would see the following: (My scatter being 344 DPS plus)

Summerflame wrote: Id like to share some frustration with you all. Basically all ordinary weapons crafted before CU is useless... Look at the 3 examples below.

Now for where I would like some help from the community, the above is not really enough evidence to prove this case 100%, a god example would be if a WS just happened to have 2 weapons one with pup one without, otherwise identical. Then craft an identical weapon again to verify the post-CU crafted stats, this should pin down the % gain these weapons got a little more. If you can help please post, I personally feel this is game breaking as it affects just about every player. This can be resolved if we act quickly.

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Tisvi wrote:

My PH was 740someodd before the CU and turned into a 1111 max dunno what my dps is off the top of my head but i seem to be doing pretty good

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Planned on the potential shafting and purchased a high speed hammer after playing TC.

Message Edited by SigmaE on 05-01-2005 05:57 PM

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