Swordsman Archive
Thread: TKM now does more damage then us.
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CorporateDan
Tue Dec 16, 2003 2:06 pm
#1
Due to mitigation and toughness they will do more damage then us at a higher speed with out VKs. I am a master swordsmen and dueled on just a few minutes ago, with my power hammer equiped 137-469 with a speed slice I was doing about 30-50 damage. The TKM on the other hand did 56-57 damage with out going any higher or lower. With specials they will do more damage at a one second speed, while we do less damage at a 2-3 second speed. That and all the other bonuses they get we are just way outclassed now. All you can hope for now is that you have a good back up elite profession and they are a master crafting profession. Let the good times roll!
CorporateDan
Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:05 pm
#3
I have done the calculations on a 30% damaged sliced cleaver vs. a 30% sliced hammer. Came out the hammer had 103 more max damage then the cleaver and about 30 more min damage.
Keanti
Tue Dec 16, 2003 10:56 pm
#5
they have always done more damage then us... its kind of funny how the devs said that swordsman where suposed to have the best DPS but we have like the 4th best.... the devs lie right to our face
anatanoshi
Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:05 am
#7
I cant even count the times i've destroyed a TKM....if you guys would do a little more thinking and alot less complaining you'd be able to do the same. And keep in mind I still havn't mastered swordsman. Heres one tip tho....geta curved sword. Hammers are good for PvE...but don't even waste your time PvP. Cleaver...bah. Were slow as it is.....why take a slower sword with lesser damage just cause it has a "smaller" dmg range. I'd give you a few more tips on how to destroy these "so called gods" that you all keep glorifying.....but whats the point. You'll just sit here and whine about all the extra work you'll still have to do.
hallaballa
Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:29 am
#8
AtmI am TKM and swordsman 1-2-1-3... Well today I have tested a little agains FS npc on Dantooine.. When I use unarmed I barely scratch them.. Damage them a little more with VKs equipped.. But when I change to my power hammer and stack bleeds on them and then use head hit I own them..
So, when the target has light and medium armor (not to mention high) a swordsman outdamage a TKM, and not just a little bit either..
NashDarksabre
Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:17 am
#9
I beat a TKM twice yesterday, at 0/0/0/3 swordsman. I just used warcry 2, lunge 2, slapped on both bleeders, then ran.
But I disagree with 2H curved being better than a power hammer. It all depends on the situation. If they have composite on, you want a power hammer because everyone has kinetic as their highest defense. Also, you want a power hammer for a good bleed. So basically, you want to switch between the two for certain things (such as use 2H curved to lunge, then switch to PH).
But I disagree with 2H curved being better than a power hammer. It all depends on the situation. If they have composite on, you want a power hammer because everyone has kinetic as their highest defense. Also, you want a power hammer for a good bleed. So basically, you want to switch between the two for certain things (such as use 2H curved to lunge, then switch to PH).
Tanmorgulion
Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:04 pm
#10
Is there no ingenuity in this group. When dueling a TKA hit COB just before you start. Have your highest damage power hammer equiped with a curved sword hotkeyed. Hit for both mind bleeds. Switch to curved sword. COB again as soon as the other runs out. Then headhit3 them to death with a faster weapon with positive range modifiers. You can throw in a warcry 2 if you have it. Just pray that it hits. Don't bother with a standard warcry I don't think they're worth it because by the time your stupid animation is over and your ready to hit again the standard warcry has worn off.
CorporateDan
Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:12 pm
#11
anatanoshi wrote:
I cant even count the times i've destroyed a TKM....if you guys would do a little more thinking and alot less complaining you'd be able to do the same. And keep in mind I still havn't mastered swordsman. Heres one tip tho....geta curved sword. Hammers are good for PvE...but don't even waste your time PvP. Cleaver...bah. Were slow as it is.....why take a slower sword with lesser damage just cause it has a "smaller" dmg range. I'd give you a few more tips on how to destroy these "so called gods" that you all keep glorifying.....but whats the point. You'll just sit here and whine about all the extra work you'll still have to do.
And I killed TKMs too. I am talking about being fair, and having the same buffs, armor and all that jazz. Me being a trandoshan using a two handed sword would take me out of action in 5 moves or less. I also play smart TKMs that actually use something other then the dizzy kd move. It is hard to hit anything when you have stun, intimidate, blind, and various other status effects on you. Also you fail to realize this is after the patch. I am talking about AFTER the patch, not before. Before we could kill a TKM now it has become even harder, and we have lost our advantage. If you didn't notice due to damage mitigation the two handed curved sword has became supreme garbage.
CorporateDan
Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:14 pm
#12
I am talking about a straight up duel that involves no kiting. A fair duel. I could easily kill a TKM kiting since I am a master rifleman.
Ypiana
Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:35 pm
#13
Don't forget that TKM have only AP1 weapons, also, and we have AP2 weapons and multiple damage types. Woah - that Janta is 100% against kinetic and electricity, eh? Good luck, TKM!
-- Ypi
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