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PWT, that all depends on how the swing multipliers are determined. Maybe it's capped first at 1 second and then multiplied from there?

Also, you then have to take into account things like HAM efficiency. Depending on your race and your stat configuration, different weapons will be more or less efficient. (2H Curved is more action, 2H cleaver is equal action and health, PH is health, etc). Personally, I think having everything on health is the best, because you need to use health to perform moves like Intimidate anyway.

I'm not sure why you're always using special moves? My experience has been that they're far more trouble than they're worth. You end up doing more damage to yourself than the mob does. Especially in groups you have less downtime if you don't do any special moves outside of defensive ones like Intimidate.

That's not to mention damage types which is an important consideration. Against the right mobs an argument can be made for either the Cleaver or the Power Hammer (Kinetic vs Blast).

A final consideration is the higher end damage. Even if the PH is slower when styles come into consideration, it's still way better to bleed with it than with a 2H Curved or 2H Cleaver.

Obviously the situation is extremely complex, it's just we've simplified it down to a straight up DPS comparison in this thread. It could very well be that you're better off using the PH unstyled and then switching to a Cleaver or Curved for styles. Or maybe a tactic like switching between weapons depending on how your HAM bar is looking (low action, go with PH, low health go with Curved, etc).

Unfortunately, we really need a Master or near-Master Swordsman to answer these questions. I'd love to test this myself but, unfortunately, I won't hit MS for a long time to come. Do we have any volunteers?

Unless lets see what your attacking has a 70% resist against kinetic and is vulnerable to blast or vice versa.

The weapons I've had made by my guilds master weaponssmith focus on HAM, not damage or speed for the specific reason that if i keep them on the ground, they can't hit me. I have also migrated my stats to give me some extra action and high secondaries to reduce style costs. It would be nice though if maybe we could get a clarifcation of how all the numbers play in together. Maybe we can ask the devs to fill us in on how the numbers actually work so we can actually come up with a conclusive answer on this issue.

Obviously it would be nice to lead an attack with a power hammer bleed and then follow up with a fast sword to keep them laying down. The weapon switch sounds kind of like a pain in the ass and it would be nice to have a single great weapon to use.

I think the whole issue and the reason these threads keep popping up is the fact that power hammer is not clearly better. It shouldn't be necessary to compare a 2nd level brawler skill weapons vs. an elite profession's weapon. The difference should be obvious and its not (besides damage type). We shouldn't need a master swordsman to tell us the difference. Some of us will not even be going all the way to master. The weapons statistics should tell us the differences that are important in game without having to break out a calculator (I still would like dev clarification of how these numbers actually work). Any game where you build up weapon skill allowing you access to better weapons should make the better weapons clearly better, there is too much gray area between all of our options.

welp, my story has changed hehe.. I bought a few crates of melee powerups.. 31% health reduce and 15% speed increase.. slapped it on the speed sliced hammer... being a trando health is something I have.. I can do chain specials and I mean for minutes and minutes on end before I need to heal myself.. I heal up with my master surgeon skill and boom full health and action with 80 missing mana.. by the time I need to heal again my mind is full lol. Glad I posted this, completely changed the way I battle creatures. Thanks for all the input guys =)

I'm glad to help the classmate.

I beleive the speed cap is 1 second (correct me if i'm wrong). That would mean to cap the speed on the 2 hand curved 1 you will need a 70% speed decrease. I'm not sure how the +'s to speed affect your actual weapon speed. Some numbers on that would be nice, but I doubt we would be able to decrease the speed that much. (I am not master, but have mastered the techniques line, I did not see that dramatic of a change).