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Thread: Swordsman vs TKA in PvE
speed and accuracy...
you forgot speed and accuracy numbnutts
if you do 150% of their damage but swing at half the speed...
come in.....
turn the wheels...
DannieQuee wrote:
i have two scythes..one damage sliced to 400 dmg 2.5 speed, and another one speed sliced 2.0 321 dmg. i do about 500 dps vs. 80% composite to your mind pool, start off with gamorrean axe with mind hit 2 (bleed, disease), use a grooved twohander to l and health bleed, then pound on you with heathit 3..this is after lunge2 and unarmed dizzy 1, followed by lunge 1 if you manage to stand up before dizzy is out.
Mmm, I have a 445 max damage scythe and I can't recall EVER hitting anyone with damage mitigation 3 that hard without a helmet, let alone someone wearing a helmet with 80% kinetic.
I suppose if they were a pikeman or even another swordsman (low melee toughness)who was KD'd it might happen...
LOL you are too funny. First you start off saying in general that TKA's do more damage then swordsmen, THEN you back this up by comparing a rare uber weapon to an ordinary power hammer and claim that it clearly shows TKA's do loads more damage then swordsmen (you even forgot about the medium AP in your flawed comparison, LOL!), THEN you forget about comparing damage stats (possibly because you know you are wrong?) and start on a completely newline of attack "well it's all about speed and accuracy!"
You know what else it's also about? Dealing blast damage rather then Kinetic damage. You know what else it's about? Doing loads more damage to heavy armour with an AP2 weapon then an AP1 Vibro-Knuckler ever could. You know what else it's about? Having a decent HAM specific attack. You know what else it's about? You getting a clue what you are talking about before you start to back up wild assumptions with flawed calculations.
That, as they say, is that.
Huff....fine....
380 X 1.25 = 475
You still swing for half the speed.
And TKAs don't really miss when they are blind.
ArkMindSpear wrote:
Yes thats EXACTLY CORRECT!!!
If you completely ignore the fact that teh PH is AP2 and the VK is AP1...
Huff....fine....
380 X 1.25 = 475
You still swing for half the speed.
And TKAs don't really miss when they are blind.
There was a similar debate about Scatter versus Launcher on the BH forums not long ago—I'llparaphrase something Wepps said. The math may not work out, but in actual practice a MHS with good weapons will outdamage a TKM. How do I know? I'm both, and I've taken on the same exact MOBs as each, and I'll tell you, MHS kills them faster. Is it about base damages? Probably not. AP? Not really that, either. Speed? Nope. It's about pool-targetting. Sure, TKM can target any of the three pools, but the attacks are very weak. So in order to get your highest damage output as a TKM you have to go random-HAM (UAhit3.) As a MHS I can use 2Hhead3 and, while I've got a lower DPS, I'm not spreading it across 2 pools (I'll ignore mind for the moment, since only about 1-2 in 10 hits strike it.) So yeah, the TKM may do half again as much damage as I do (as a MHS) but mine is twice as "useful."
In other words, TKM has to inflict nearly 2x the damage I do to kill the MOB/incap the player, but is only doing damage 1.5x as fast—I'll win almost every time in a pure damage contest. I've done it—to TKMs and to Commandos. So, keep plugging in your numbers and telling me why my playstyle is inferior, and while you're doing that I'll be out killing those MOBs faster than the TKMs or Commandos, or whatever else can…betcha I'll be having more fun actually playing than you will with the calculator.
Ok, you are using a weapon that isn't even out yet and will be ultra rare when it's available vs. an ordinary bog stanard power hammer and you think it's a fair and balanced assumption. If you want to play it like that lets take a recently made ackley Power Hammer that does 400-574 damage
[http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=swordsman&message.id=28422]
Ok based on this hammer, it does an average of about 525 damage (thats145 damage more then your 380 hammer by the way)plus 1.25x for being AP2 it should do about 656 damage in a hit. Thats 181 more then the 475 damage that you predicted for an ordinary power hammer after you remembered to add the AP2. If you are going to compare damage output please don't give the class you favour a super weapon and compare it an ordinary weapon. It's just stupid, unbalanced and doesn't prove a thing.
Yes, I did just enjoy pwning you, thank you and good night.