Swordsman Archive
Thread: Swordsman vs TKA in PvE
DannieQuee
Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:39 am
#27
wow, you guys really are jerks here. i hope you two are not typical of the swordsman community. the team lead seems to be a good guy and looking out for us.
if you hate it so much, why dont you go with a diff profession
it works for me, and it works for others i've seen here and elsewhere. maybe not 100%, but only FOTM chasing l33t dewdz care about 100% winning in pvp.
Ufgood-Zep
Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:40 am
#28
Did we say its not working in PvP? With a good template it can be fine, your template is far from "good".
When you keep pulling BS statements out of your ass "500 damage per hit in PvP against 80% kinetic armor" then of course we are going to question everything you say.
When you keep pulling BS statements out of your ass "500 damage per hit in PvP against 80% kinetic armor" then of course we are going to question everything you say.
Ufgood-Zep
Sun Apr 18, 2004 10:52 am
#29
Dropping a CM/rifleman tends to be easy to do with the lack of defenses he has and as long as your smart enough to pvp with a doc your fine.
Joinky316
Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:31 am
#30
Ufgood-Zep wrote:
Running away isnt quite called "tactics".
Umm... yes it is.
Darkatrina
Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:28 am
#31
I think you have made a couple of valid points however come on , 500 damage against 80%? No way hosay its impossible.
Im currently swords/master doc and do ok against most, if i die its cos i screwed up which does happen regulalrly. Im more afraid of my own kind not a tk.
Willowywicca
Mon Apr 19, 2004 6:56 am
#32
500 dmg per hit vs 80% kinetic armor.. means you'd do 2500 if they had no armor on, and that in pve you regularily hit for 10,000 since there's no 75% dmg reduction there.. of course since melee mitigation isn't a problem in pve your max dmg would be much higher, so you probably hit for up to 15,000 each swing of your weapon.
Unless you've got a legendaryweapon and can post pics of it I find it impossible to believe you.
Also you say people on your server go around with 1200 mind while fully doc buffed for pvp? Then yes, everyone on your server *does* suck at pvpif they're not even smart enough to use brandy, undoubtedly they're all running around in full armor except with no helmets cos the mind ham costs are too high if they wear one.. and maybe that's why you're hitting their heads for 500 dmg (tho even then 500 still seems very high if they have anymelee mitigation/toughness)..
Personally I am master fencer and master swordsman, and I will say, if played right I think swordsman (backed up by other professions)can be effective for pvp, but you require other professions to allow you to apply state effects (blind/stun) and for the most part, something like fencerperforms alot better... that being said against a doc/fencer I found swordsman attacks more effective since targetted mind was better in that instance than scatter hit2 which was performing rather poorly...
Oh and I was never hit for 1k dmg by anything while wearing armor, ion rifle doesn't hurt that much with a decent stun layer helm, and admittedly pre-nerf acklay batons are non-existant on my server, so maybe they really do hit for 1k dmg, but again I reckon that's only against people with no stun layers at all... I did get hit by some dark jedi's cascade of hatred attack for 1100 dmg a few times the other day (think that's the most I've ever been hit in 1 go consistently),but I wasn't wearing any armor at the time, if I were it's have been more like 200-300 dmg (or less if jedi powers have 0 AP lol 
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Suva
Mon Apr 19, 2004 7:14 am
#33
Wow! If I could hit for 15k a time I would be soloing Corvette right now.
ArkMindSpear
Mon Apr 19, 2004 9:41 am
#34
TKAs out damage swordsman in pve.
TKA = 300-450 @ 1.0
Swordsman = 160-600 @ 3.0
And tka's area attack is better for the same reasons....
Suva
Mon Apr 19, 2004 10:17 am
#35
Yes BUT they only get kinetic whicha lot more things have a special resist against. Thats whyBlast damage is such a big deal.
Ufgood-Zep
Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:11 am
#36
Aye, show me the last TKM that soloed a krayt? An elder?
PvE wise ill take swordsman over TKM and yes ive been a TKM.
PvE wise ill take swordsman over TKM and yes ive been a TKM.
ArkMindSpear
Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:39 am
#37
I'm just saying, that when you say, "swordsman outdamage tkas" it is missleading.
Suva
Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:43 am
#38
well it's not really, 7/10 a Swordsman will out damage a TKA to be honest.
ArkMindSpear
Mon Apr 19, 2004 11:55 am
#39
with out resists against blast or kinetic factoring in...i'm pretty sure that isn't true....
and if you take into acout tkas knew weapon...i know it isn't.
The new weapon was made and had 99-251 stats
+250-+250 = 349-501 Base damage
A good Power hammer is like 160-600 Base damage
The tka will hiton averagefor 425
Where as the swordsman will hit on average for a base of 380
Moreover, the TKA will hit twice if not three times every time the swordsman hit's once.
And more on that, the swordsman will frequintly miss whereas the TKA will likely never miss.
And more on that, the swordsman will frequintly miss whereas the TKA will likely never miss.
SO unless you are packing some elete weaponry. I don't think it's likely. It's good to pretend though isn't it?