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Thread: TKM vs Master Swordsman
I've been thinking about mastering fencer in addition to mastering brawler and swordsman. If I calculated correctly that would give me:75 to knockdown def, 60 dizzy def, 101 melee def, 89 ranged def, 105 dodge, and 110 counterattack.
Would that be good enough to stop the knockdown dizzy affect? Would the dodge and counterattack mods work together in cob? I think this is an awesome plan but I would have to sacrifice much. Whadya all think??
Oh that is really touching....so your point is you cant beat a tka in pvp/duel. So you can still beat the other combat professions. Well I cant beat a jedi so guess what, they need to be nerfed they are too overpowered.
Let me chime in here -
My alt is a TKM and I can tell you I lose very few duels. This is a fight WITHOUT VK's (I get a nice range without them). Bottom Line:
If the KD2/Warcry (Warcry really doesn't matter) hits, its over. Spitting Rawl (unarmed hit 3) about 3 times (you would actually only see one animation for this, yet it would hit 3 times).
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To test the theory, I went against a Master BH with full composite and I tore through it with little resistance (this took me down to about 100 HAM because of the spitting rawls).
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What makes it funny? I can hit someone with my barehands 15 away. I am going to be transitioning to HS (MHS) soon. Just wanted to check it out.
Is TKA overpowered? I'm not sure, I think HS maybe is a little underpowered.
Whether TKA is overpowered, or everything else is underpowered is not for us to decide.
However, I do know that TKM's have abilities far greater than any other melee profession. Ifsome of you TKM's cant see this, then completely drop your profession, and try Pikeman for a taste of humility.
Oh, and before one of you gets uppity, Im aTeras Kasi Master aswell, its a nice surprise to people in duels who are thinking they're getting an instant win against a Pikeman.
Part of will be glad to see people start whining about fencer and not TKA all the time. Everytime a profession is fixed the lamers cry thats its overpowered and should be "nerfed".
Should a TKA be able to kill a HS in every duel? no.
Should a Gunfighter deal 900 damage a shot in PvP? no.
Should a Fencer be able to dodge everything? no.
Should the BH's have a shot that does 900 pvp damage, blind, bleed and do mind damage? no.
And guess what? ALL those are scenerio's that happened because a player
A) knew his class still had problems and dueled a fixed profession.
B) got killed buy a Krayt weapon and ASSUMED it was a normal one.
C) Was flat out lieing.
D) See "B)"
Everyone I talk to on wander agrees that HS is the melee god of PvP. I thought it was TKA. I'm working on HS though as I'm SICK of people crying about my profession being "Teh uber godly". I wasTKA back when you where better off stabbing YOURSELF with those VK's than using them against compostie armor. I am VERY sick of people yelling at the developers to fix the professions and then crying when their profession wasn't picked first to fix. Any that does this is obviously very immature and needs to grow up. Lord KNOWS I had my foot shoved in my mouth everytime I said something was overpowered. If you think a profession is overpowered. Do that profession. Become that profession and and see. I did it. I went commando because it was "Overpowered", guess what. Its not. I went gunfighter and well... It was at the time but they fixed that. I went rifleman, and they where right, the devs did hate them. I went both master brawler and master marksman. Marksman on the master stage... Rifle's are ok now, carbines kill you faster than the enemy, and pistol... well its great but the lack of AP is its downfall. Brawler. TKA sucks at the level hands down, fencer is actuallyquite good at the master brawler level (thanks to dizzy-lunge), Two handed is by far my fave and probably the most powerful, and pikeman... well... I pity them... a lot.
Point being while you may THINK a profession is "Overpowered", it may not be. I do agree that since the TKA profession was chosen to be fixed first it has a distinct edge of the others. But just like the thread in the fencer forum showed with some skill and dabbling a fencer trashed 5 TKM's. Its all in the situation. I personally think that all melee classes NEED a dizzy attack to compete in PvP. Its by far the standard in crippling attacks you try first to get a quick win.
Of course being a TKM (or any melee)has one of too outcomes in PvP.
1) You are covert in a group, with another person overt. They attack him and you run along their line and KD2/hit3/hit3 them one by one and listen to the"Cheat" screams from the lamers.
2)You are Overt anywhere with anyone and a ranged player sees you.Theyspam a (Eyeshot/fire KD/stopping shot/last ditch.)You incap. Most likely you used your hourly FoW on that pack of valarians or Jabba's that shot you up. The killer throws insults that resemeble alphabet soup at you and the DB's you.
Emperor_Hogan wrote:
How does a Masterswordsman compete with TKMs on a PVE level?
-Jess- wrote:
Again taht AP2 is more than jsut a differance in words. That extra Armor Piercing makes the differance between me hitting a NS for 2k damage every 2 -3 seconds and a TK hitting it for 200 damage every second. (In theoryr they should be hitting for the same as me do to unarmed damage and the damage of their VKs. against smaller mobs it doesnot really matter but once you see something with medium armor, call on the swordsman or the pikeman.
Also if youhave speed tapes, then you will hit as fast as the TKM
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