Swordsman Archive
Thread: rate my hammer :)
JeffIncredible
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:57 am
#27
no that's not horrible at all. You have a good combination going for ya there. ATM i'm using a hammer that was sliced for speed and is base 2.44 ish. Mod gets me down to 1.4those extra few hits you can squeeze in can really make the difference especially when you have them KD'd. Damge is only 489-1012 and with a sac pup i'm down to 66. I find this combination to work very well for me. I think even if I had a sac of 82 I couldn't use it to spam so my logic is that i'm going to put a SAC pup on it no matter what and as long as it's under 70 i'm fine. So i'd rather spend the extra points into speed and damage once I get the SAC managable. This is also not using highest quality loot items (cubes/agent) which is something i'm currently pursuing to see what I can have made.I will probably get my next one to be a damage weapon so I can switch between them.
Message Edited by JeffIncredible on 07-28-2005 05:20 AM
jason67
Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:31 am
#28
MrDecipher wrote:
I'm no crafter all i know is i had -14 red cubes some 28 damage solid units and they crafter came back with the powerhammer. I have no clue if he used bones or if bones could be used I just know my hammer and so do the people i fight.
I am a crafter and I'm trying to explain to you how it works. I'm considered one of the top custom weapons crafters if not the top on my server. I use server best resources, 1000sr iron, 989 sr copper, just to give you an idea of the quality resources I use, I have the best WS suit on our server and I have the FS crafting.
Acklay bone replaces the reinforcment core in crafting.
geo components are used in the geo reinforced core, which means you can not use both, you get one or the other.
Yes you can easily get the 82 SAC cap using geo cores, I have done this several times without any problems. But if your using Acklay bones the best possible SAC you can get with my resources(which are pretty much as good as you can get on any server) is 95.
The max damage you can get for min damage period is 592 roughly, which means that it's impossible to have a min damage of 750 without using a pup. It is also impossible to break the hard caps of 1184max damage while crafting or slicing, though a pup can break that mark.
I don't see why you keep arguing with me, I'm telling you where the hard caps are, it's very simple it is literally impossible to hit those stats unless you are using a pup or a pre-curb weapon which woul have a Sac of 104. Hard caps are not flexible they do not allowsomeone to pass those caps, plain and simple.
so it's very simple really. 1200+max damage, and 750+min damage are impossible to hit stats unless your talking about a pre-curb hammer, or a hammer that is using a powerup. You could potentially get a better all around hammer using the Geo cores, but your damage will suffer compared to high end acklay bones. Frankly you can argue all you won't, but myself being someone who deals with weapons and their caps on a daily basis i simply know what is possible and what is not. If you have a hammer that is above the caps in either one of those then that's great but it meets one of the above conditions, either pre-curb or it has a pup on it, plain and simple.
Message Edited by jason67 on 07-28-2005 10:39 AM
CaptainJustice
Thu Jul 28, 2005 11:44 am
#29
Ok, here's a screenie of PH. You'll see it is labeled "Vomitores Uber Acklay PH". Yes, I know People will say 114 SAC is too high but, with my soon too have doc skills and foods it wont be a problem. Enjoy!
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=285454&poll_id=0&warned=y
MrDecipher
Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:46 pm
#31
Well a pre-CU hammer was just craftd on my server at 1260 damage witha pup 1450 or something so your hard caps are wrong. If you want absolute proof login to flurry and send me a tell i will show ya my hammer.
jason67 wrote:
MrDecipher wrote:
I'm no crafter all i know is i had -14 red cubes some 28 damage solid units and they crafter came back with the powerhammer. I have no clue if he used bones or if bones could be used I just know my hammer and so do the people i fight.
I am a crafter and I'm trying to explain to you how it works. I'm considered one of the top custom weapons crafters if not the top on my server. I use server best resources, 1000sr iron, 989 sr copper, just to give you an idea of the quality resources I use, I have the best WS suit on our server and I have the FS crafting.
Acklay bone replaces the reinforcment core in crafting.
geo components are used in the geo reinforced core, which means you can not use both, you get one or the other.
Yes you can easily get the 82 SAC cap using geo cores, I have done this several times without any problems. But if your using Acklay bones the best possible SAC you can get with my resources(which are pretty much as good as you can get on any server) is 95.
The max damage you can get for min damage period is 592 roughly, which means that it's impossible to have a min damage of 750 without using a pup. It is also impossible to break the hard caps of 1184max damage while crafting or slicing, though a pup can break that mark.
I don't see why you keep arguing with me, I'm telling you where the hard caps are, it's very simple it is literally impossible to hit those stats unless you are using a pup or a pre-curb weapon which woul have a Sac of 104. Hard caps are not flexible they do not allowsomeone to pass those caps, plain and simple.
so it's very simple really. 1200+max damage, and 750+min damage are impossible to hit stats unless your talking about a pre-curb hammer, or a hammer that is using a powerup. You could potentially get a better all around hammer using the Geo cores, but your damage will suffer compared to high end acklay bones. Frankly you can argue all you won't, but myself being someone who deals with weapons and their caps on a daily basis i simply know what is possible and what is not. If you have a hammer that is above the caps in either one of those then that's great but it meets one of the above conditions, either pre-curb or it has a pup on it, plain and simple.
Message Edited by jason67 on 07-28-2005 10:39 AM
CaptainJustice
Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:50 pm
#32
Well, I have 2 high power, PH's. this one, a pre-cu 1150 104 SAC and ane that will be about 1100-1110 damage with 90 SAC. So,I can rotate them which should be interesting.
MrDecipher
Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:58 pm
#33
oh i was wrong about my min damage its onmly 578 i didn't realize min changed with a damage pup and i was subracting from what my pup said. But if y alogin to flurry shoot me a tell and yuo will seee my hammer
here is the auction for something that breaks your cap
1261 damage un puped
JeffIncredible
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:01 pm
#34
Ok it specifically says it was crafted PRE-CU. not sure how you missed that.
JeffIncredible
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:02 pm
#35
I'd still be curious to see a screen shot though. That sac makes it not worth it though.
JeffIncredible
Thu Jul 28, 2005 4:15 pm
#37
MrDecipher wrote:
No it was crafted post-CU with pre-CU acklay bones.
Hmm, i read it differently. But if you have inside information then i'll try and take your word for it.
BTW nice s/s.
Lennie_Carlson
Thu Jul 28, 2005 9:49 pm
#38
Well since we are talking about hammers here, I figured I'd see what was thought of mine. Made Pre-CU with some nice bones. Really wish it could still be sliced, but meh what ya gonna do. There was a series of 6 some got given to friends, some sold, and now this is the only one I still know where it is.
Mr Sledgy
Message Edited by Lennie_Carlson on 07-29-2005 11:50 AM