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Thread: WOW! now that's a head hit

TieWalker
Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:33 pm
#27






FoeHammerOne wrote:





monkeylips1 wrote:


I have been PvP'ing a bit lately. I have run accros a particular swordsman that i am quite impressed with. I would like ot understand how he is pulling this off so that i can better defend against it.


I was in a 1v1 battle with this particular swordsman and i died in 3 hits. I am a jedi knight so i dont really have any meele defense to speak of. After the battle i checked my combat chat to see what happened. I was sclap slammed 3 times all just shy of 1100 damage and it happened in a matter of seconds. I spoke to this swordsman and he claims that his hammer is 670 max damage.


I have researced how PvP damage is calculated a bit and worked with several swordsmen to try to recreate this scenario. I even went as far as to buy my wife the 800 max hammer on the trade boars recently as she is a swordsman as well. I could not find anyone to hit anywhere near that amount. With the 800 max hammer she was only able to hit me for 451 and most were in the 200 to 300 range.


Any help understanding this would be apreciated as i am trying to figure out how to defend.


Thanks for the help,


I am Lazurus

Message Edited by monkeylips1 on 12-27-2004 11:33 PM






Because I pwn j00.





hmmm...3 HAKD posts in a row lol you guys must follow each other somehow



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Vshbaa
Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:15 am
#28






DaesDream wrote:



There is no damagebonus for intimadate, there is a 50% damage reduction for the person who is intimadated, but no bonus.


There is a damagebonus for being KDed (1.5x).



The math works like this:


670 max damage x 1.17 (17% max damage p-up) = 784 max damage


784(max damage) x 1.86 (inate damage mod on all weapons) x 3.5 (damage mod for headhit3) = 5104 in PvE


5104 x 0.25 (PvP damage reduction) = 1276 mind damage in PvP.


1276 x (1-.55) (lightsaber toughness at master)= 574 damage


Or



670 max damage x 1.17 (17% max damage p-up) = 784 max damage


784(max damage) x 1.86 (inate damage mod on all weapons) x 3.5 (damage mod for headhit3) x 1.5 (KD modifier) = 7656 in PvE


7656x 0.25 (PvP damage reduction) = 1914 mind damage in PvP


1914 x (1-.55) (lightsaber toughness at master)=861 damage


My guess is that you forgot to equip your saber, or something along those lines since your +55 toughness would reduce the damage significantly. Also, 2handhit3 is a 5x mod if I remember correctly, so it should be possible for him to hit you for 1100 damage, but not with headhit3.


Message Edited by DaesDream on 01-06-2005 11:03 PM




Great job


I always though the innate damage mod was 1.5, not 1.86, which would be the reason that I thought intimidate had a bonus. And I completely forgot about KD myself.





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FoeHammerOne
Sat Jan 08, 2005 11:56 am
#29



TieWalker wrote:


FoeHammerOne wrote:


monkeylips1 wrote:
I have been PvP'ing a bit lately. I have run accros a particular swordsman that i am quite impressed with. I would like ot understand how he is pulling this off so that i can better defend against it.
I was in a 1v1 battle with this particular swordsman and i died in 3 hits. I am a jedi knight so i dont really have any meele defense to speak of. After the battle i checked my combat chat to see what happened. I was sclap slammed 3 times all just shy of 1100 damage and it happened in a matter of seconds. I spoke to this swordsman and he claims that his hammer is 670 max damage.
I have researced how PvP damage is calculated a bit and worked with several swordsmen to try to recreate this scenario. I even went as far as to buy my wife the 800 max hammer on the trade boars recently as she is a swordsman as well. I could not find anyone to hit anywhere near that amount. With the 800 max hammer she was only able to hit me for 451 and most were in the 200 to 300 range.
Any help understanding this would be apreciated as i am trying to figure out how to defend.
Thanks for the help,
I am Lazurus

Message Edited by monkeylips1 on 12-27-2004 11:33 PM





Because I pwn j00.


hmmm...3 HAKD posts in a row lol you guys must follow each other somehow





we found the post quite amusing



FoeHammer - Retired Weaponsmith
Natakku Asada - Retired PvPer.
rekoil
Sun Jan 09, 2005 8:01 am
#30

PVP Wise Min damage is More Important, Min Damage is what gets Past Mitigation, and through any Melee Defence


Jedi Wise i barely hit em for 500 let alone 1100



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