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Thread: Powerhammers are pretty useless

Soulburner69
Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:39 pm
#27

i personally use the powerhammer all the time, i have one that does a min damage of 195, and a max damage of 575 or something arround those numbers. it has a 5.4 speed, and -29 to hit on all ranges


the other one i have has a damage of 118- 440 or something like that with a speed of 4.3 it also has -29 on all ranges.


i have intermediate sword finesse, and am half way to getting expert sword techniques, and i solo fambaa. i just use the attack where it causes the mind to bleed, then i start decimating the target with mind hit 2. more often than not i get incaped once or twice, but in the end the fambaa hits the ground, and i am still alive if not slightly injured.


i havent fought in pvp yet so i dont know how well i would do in that.


i honestly dont know why people dont like the swordsman class, or the powerhammer. personally i would like to see more of a selection of weapons for the swordsman class, like a axe that is equal to the powerhammer, and a sword that is equal to the hammer. that way a swordsman could have his/her choice on what weapon they would like to use. and not be restricted to either using the powerhammer, or one of the weapons lower down on the skill tree.




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Khalaermol
Mon Sep 15, 2003 3:54 pm
#28

Personally, I'm happy to see threads such as this.



Make me MORE uber!!!!



Oh, and the ph and rykk blade (I use it once in a while for the quick dizzy style) are the only weapons I use




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Mykil
Mon Sep 15, 2003 4:52 pm
#29

The hammer was made on the Sunrunner server by Dreximus. He made a big batch of them a day or two after the advanced core was put in. He still has about 10 on his vendor outside of Theed with the same range mods. Im just planning on getting novice swordsman so am wondering if it is worth it with the hammer I have or stay with 2h curved.
RaZoR617
Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:52 pm
#30

First off lelia you need a better power hammer, meaning you need one with a speed slice, the damage slice you have on yours is awesome xcept in the time it takes you hit me2 times i can hit you4-5 times, with me doingmore damage. My power hammer is 3.7 sec with 150-460 damage, before powerup, get a power up that affects your idea attack range and max damage, with 2 hand hit 2 im doing about 1500-4000 damage every 2 seconds. I have not hit master yet but man cant wait.


And yes we do NEED MORE and BETTER WEAPONS.


Ps guys i went on a hunt in the rancor cave in the loot i found but could not loot a 2 handed axe, decent stat but get this, poison mind damage, man i was trying so hard to get it out of the container and reported bug as did everyone i was with man i wanted that. But they are working in covert to help us it seems.




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ShortFatWhiteWookie
Mon Oct 13, 2003 10:24 pm
#31

I'm not yet a masterswordswoman yet but from what I here the 4k hit you are very proud of, my max so far is 10k, to me one hitting a surface marshall means more to me that hacking at him for 2 mins, yes very fast hacking but I would prefer to make sure the first shot hits so hard they don't get up to fight back, this also works well in PvP a thing that most over look when fighting, yes people with guns can kite but all I need is one hit, perhaps two and that is all they write, just Change Post on them then hit with the big slugger, it kind of shocks people to see that melee classes can PvP and stand on even ground with them.





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macross_sdf1
Tue Oct 14, 2003 2:54 pm
#32

Some comments:


Can get a powerhammer to -9 sure, but at the expense of speed and damage. You have a speed sliced hammer, but only 440 damage.


My current batch of hammers are -19 to hit, 468 5.3. I have 12 experimentation points though. You can get 115 accuracy at master and master brawler. Once you fill up hte accuracy tree the -hit penalty is meaningless.


Can kill AT-ST with powerhammers. Takes me around 10 sec.


Mind bleeds are powerful with a hammer. Can do like 5500 mind2 and 3500 mind1s


Besides you can kill stuff in one hit with a powerhammer, which would take you 2-3 with a 2h curved. That there is lower ham costs.



Azmodean
Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:08 pm
#33

While the power hammer is definitely not a soloing weapon, it's a great group weapon. The heavy hits and higher minimum damage mean that you can dish the damage faster. And the slow swing time doesn't make as much of a difference in a group, since your target might only live for 10-20 seconds anyway.


I never use my powerhammer for soloing... but Ialmost always use it in groups.


Also, as far as I know, special move damage is multiplier based, while special move delay is straight addition based. So using special moves with a power hammer actually gives a greater DPS increase than using them with a 2h sword.


I still use both weapons, but just like my armor, each has a specific set of situations that I use them in.

Azmodean
Tue Oct 14, 2003 3:22 pm
#34

For wookiees and trandoshans, the PH vs 2h Curved sword debate is a no brainer... use the powerhammer. But for most races, especially Zabraks with their hidiously high willpower, it's a bit tougher choice. Using a 2h Curved sword, I barely even see my mind move at all. My action is all I worry about.


As for just my observations as a novice swordsman... I take 119 damage per 2h Hit 2 with a 2h curved sword, and most of that is action. I take 128 damage with a Power Hammer, and that's about 50/50 health/action. Given the delay, from a pure HAM standpoint, the powerhammer is much better, because not only do I take less overall damage (128 vs ~238 over the same time period) but it's split more evenly between health and action, meaning I can recover from it more quickly. I don't have a cleaver yet... colat iron just spawned on my server for the second time *ever* since launch, so I'm picking one up tonight... but for right now I like my power hammer for most things. I still carry both on me though, since I usually go killing night sisters once a day or so, and half are 100% blast resistant while the other half are 100% kinetic resistant.

ninelives74
Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:09 am
#35

Lilea, which server are you in? where is your shop ?
JOWaRLorD
Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:30 am
#36

This is a crazy argument.....both swords r useful and that is that. You ever try to take out a TK Master with a PH, cause its not happenin. But if you resist that kd2, the sword will drop them in 3-4 swings. PH is awesome for that first blow though, even though you might miss. But you guys have real **edit**ty weapons too. But a **edit** crate and have the smuggler slice it all. My sword is 67-248 with 1.1 speed with power-up, thats right, its a really strong vibro-knuckler. My hammer has a 3.2 speed without power-up, and its swingin to kill. Now i swing 3 times as much with sword, and it owns. But if I'm fighting a ranged fighter...your attack rate doesnt matter, your not hitting them with everyswing while they r running, so your hits have to count...bottom line. Any Heavy Swordsman that doesnt have both PH and curved on their hotkeys will get owned, try dancing. Have a nice day.


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ninelives74
Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:38 am
#37

hey JOWaRlord , i am gonna work on Master Heavy Sword/Master Brawler/Master CH too. am a novice swordman/novice ch now.
RodFlanders
Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:56 am
#38

My hammer is sliced for speed and I got a 30% tohealth 15% to min damage powerup on it. You can say it's useless all you want, but I get one hit kills all too often and I'm only 0,1,0,0. In a PvP group, if I'm buffed (I also am a Master Armorsmith and made myself some sweet Composite)... I can ususally burst run around the area and one hit targets without them doing a thing to me. In a game where the first hit could be the only hit, I do just fine.



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TC_FluFFy
Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:39 pm
#39

I do not have a PH yet, although I am going to buy one very shortly. I have a two handed sword, and well, it eats through my action like none other. I can't spam it, if I do, I find myself incapped with an action incap, every time.
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