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Thread: My new swordsman based pvp template =)
Zarqon
Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:25 am
#14
Milgram wrote:
Maybe Doc 4030?
rekoil wrote:
my pvp temp:
TKM, M sword, M Brawler, 4000 fencer, and 2000 medic for Elders (and FS Speed)
Who cares about kd + dizzy defence, when you have 160 melee def, even when stunned i have 80 Melee def (most people dont even realise what stun does to melee def)
Im a tank in pvp, and only really stacking dots can damage me
This template can beat any knight, (a M Defender fight would last forever)
yes, but then he wouldn't have his defences anymore...
alexmguest
Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:05 pm
#15
i have the exact template origionally posted. with the right equipment it owns. im speed capped couter attack capped accuracy is at 180 and have a 922 max damage hammer. seriously owns jedi and normal prof have alot of trouble beating me. word of advice tho if u have this template make sure u have a very good doc behind u or a couple master healers.
Zarqon
Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:16 pm
#16
Milgram wrote:
Maybe Doc 4030?
rekoil wrote:
my pvp temp:
TKM, M sword, M Brawler, 4000 fencer, and 2000 medic for Elders (and FS Speed)
Who cares about kd + dizzy defence, when you have 160 melee def, even when stunned i have 80 Melee def (most people dont even realise what stun does to melee def)
Im a tank in pvp, and only really stacking dots can damage me
This template can beat any knight, (a M Defender fight would last forever)
yes, but then he wouldn't have his defences anymore...
xmTLuassa
Fri Feb 25, 2005 3:18 am
#17
master swords/master brawler/carbiner 0040/pistoleer 0040/fencer0040/novice pikeman
^^ best temp
Kill-A-Lot
Fri Feb 25, 2005 9:32 am
#18
xmTLuassa wrote:master swords/master brawler/carbiner 0040/pistoleer 0040/fencer0040/novice pikeman^^ best temp
no.. far from best temp
Kill-A-Lot
Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:27 am
#20
Your ''best template'': Template that is better than yours:
Defense vs. Dizzy 100 ---> 105
Defense vs. Blind 90 ---> 100
Defense vs Intimidate 65 ---> 40
Defense vs. KD 90 ---> 115
Defense vs. PC down 30 (ouch) ---> 80
Defense vs. Stun 90 ---> 105
I chose Swordsman for this one, since you had that in your template. I think there are better stacker templates with other prof's than Swordsman. Anyways..
Your template is nice, I see you chose to get 65 def vs intimidate which looks nice, but doesn't make much of a difference.. if you have 0 def vs intim or 65 you'll stil get intimidated. The other template's defenses aren't much better than yours, except defense vs. PC down, you only have 30.. you'll get dizzied, someone will lunge1 you and you'll go down. Anyways.. both of these templates get pwned by (fotm profession with dots)/doc..
My template is swordsman/doc btw, not a stacker
Defense vs. Dizzy 100 ---> 105
Defense vs. Blind 90 ---> 100
Defense vs Intimidate 65 ---> 40
Defense vs. KD 90 ---> 115
Defense vs. PC down 30 (ouch) ---> 80
Defense vs. Stun 90 ---> 105
I chose Swordsman for this one, since you had that in your template. I think there are better stacker templates with other prof's than Swordsman. Anyways..
Your template is nice, I see you chose to get 65 def vs intimidate which looks nice, but doesn't make much of a difference.. if you have 0 def vs intim or 65 you'll stil get intimidated. The other template's defenses aren't much better than yours, except defense vs. PC down, you only have 30.. you'll get dizzied, someone will lunge1 you and you'll go down. Anyways.. both of these templates get pwned by (fotm profession with dots)/doc..
My template is swordsman/doc btw, not a stacker
Message Edited by Kill-A-Lot on 02-26-2005 01:28 AM
SlaughterMonster
Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:38 am
#21
melee/ranged def doesn't do squat for high lvl mobs, jedi, and templates with maxed/near caped acc
i've kd others pretty consitantly with 190+ KD def (taking KD food even though it caps at 125 with most other def stats)
my melee def is 43 and ranged def is 33 and i take out everything in the game.....ancients if i had the time to waste on them solo lol
and i even have 3140 in medic so i can heal over 2k dmg a pop instead of 300-500 dmg with stim b's and healing all the time.....u can't heal on your backside unless you're a jedi so having just 2000 medic.....kinda suxorz
You're also wasting too many skill points going up marksman tree to get pistols defenses where they can be put to better use in tk, especially meditate for those nasty CM poison/disease incap combo's that u can meditate away
master tk is useless with swordsman template if your main pvp weapon is a swords weapon....tk has higher toughness but in my opinnion sux overall compared to a well trained swordsman ( and i've fought many tkm's to prove this....flame all u want but I've fought them all including knights with a dmg sliced hammer (non acklay) and still won more than my fair share of fights)
this is my template and i've stuck to it for 8 months......as soon as someone can prove me wrong/tank/fight and win against me consistantly in a fight i will never change my template
SlaughterMonster
Sat Feb 26, 2005 2:40 am
#22
oh and now that i have anti decay on my 43% stun 90% base armor with a 35% sliced imp shield gen
don't even tell me that rifleman(krayt jawa) fencer (acklay stun) can even put a dent in me
They can't 
Hochi-schu
Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:13 am
#23
healstate>defenses mswords/mbrawler/4030doc if you get dizzy kd just spam healdizzy and stand you you will stand in a few seconds. and you also dont have to worry about dots because you can heal them all. You have warcry2 and intimidate2 which are great to use against jedi and an extra 5 toughness, accuarcy and speed. i have had this template for a few months now and it is by far the best swordsman template i have used for pvp or pve. But it does depend on your play style as well.
Kill-A-Lot
Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:32 am
#24
Hochi-schu wrote:
healstate>defenses mswords/mbrawler/4030doc if you get dizzy kd just spam healdizzy and stand you you will stand in a few seconds. and you also dont have to worry about dots because you can heal them all. You have warcry2 and intimidate2 which are great to use against jedi and an extra 5 toughness, accuarcy and speed. i have had this template for a few months now and it is by far the best swordsman template i have used for pvp or pve. But it does depend on your play style as well.
yes that's a very solid template.
m swords/doc 4030/cm 0004.. with some nice poisons you can get upto about a 1k mind tick. you can toss ranged stims a litte, you don't have intimidate2 and warcry2 though
Goldenstar10
Sat Feb 26, 2005 3:03 pm
#25
What about TK/Swords/Mbrawler/medic 2/3/4/0 fs melee speed? I'm not sure it has enough defences so I may go
TK 4-0-0-0/Mswords/Mbrawler/Fencer 4-4-0-0/medic 2-3-4-0/Combat prowess 0-0-4-4.
TK 4-0-0-0/Mswords/Mbrawler/Fencer 4-4-0-0/medic 2-3-4-0/Combat prowess 0-0-4-4.
DMANMAX
Sat Feb 26, 2005 4:47 pm
#26
I'm Mdoc/Mswords with full FS speed, not speed capped.
I'm thinking about going Mswords, mbrawler, 4440 fencer, and 0040 pikes
with this I'll have:
def vs. dizzy +80
def vs. Kd +95
def vs. Stun +70
def vs. Blind +70
def vs. int +40
melee def +111
ranged def +99
can I get some opinions on this?
I'm thinking about going Mswords, mbrawler, 4440 fencer, and 0040 pikes
with this I'll have:
def vs. dizzy +80
def vs. Kd +95
def vs. Stun +70
def vs. Blind +70
def vs. int +40
melee def +111
ranged def +99
can I get some opinions on this?