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Thread: Hammer's: Speed vs. Power and Slicing.

LordSaibot
Fri Apr 09, 2004 6:38 pm
#14

I have a 630 max dam hammer (no acklay, cubes, or Pup) that i call thumper




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Sotaudi
Fri Apr 09, 2004 8:00 pm
#15






LordSaibot wrote:
I have a 630 max dam hammer (no acklay, cubes, or Pup) that i call thumper






I found a goodPH the night before last, and I got a 29% damage slice on it.With a max damage powerup on it, it is doing 176 - 699 damage at 5.4. Woot!



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DaForceUltra
Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:28 pm
#16


^ my power hammer has 606(no pup)max dmg 5.3 attack speed i just think the original dmg on your powerhammer is crap






LordSaibot wrote:
I have a 630 max dam hammer (no acklay, cubes, or Pup) that i call thumper








btw my friend has a 636 dmg power hammer no pu (35% sliced)

Message Edited by DaForceUltra on 04-09-2004 10:29 PM



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DaxionRai
Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:26 pm
#17

Great replies very helpful, thanx. My hammer doesn't have any power ups, I just bought a speed sliced one with 3.9 speed and 137-470 damage. I havent tried it out yet, andIalso have a 2 handed curved sword with 2.5 speed and 79-319 damage. I never realized the specials have differnt attack times which explains a lot and why sometimes I would get into some trouble when I used specials too much.



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jawmuppet
Sat Apr 10, 2004 12:33 am
#18

My suggestion is speed, like what was said above, I bought 4 power hammers (6900 each), and then found a master smuggler, and he sliced them for me, the last hammer, I got a 32% speeed slice, very awesome speed for a hammer, at 3.6!! Can anybody beat that, just wondering??



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Ciirybeccaskyr
Sat Apr 10, 2004 3:44 am
#19






Cocomono wrote:

I always go for damage. You do about the same amount of dmg with a speed or dmg slice if you aren't speed capped, but the big difference is in HAM cost and Decay rate. I'm already eating through weapons as is, using powerups every now and then I wasted a Scythe in 3days of Geno hunting. From my experiance as a TKA, speed isn't always great. The HAM cost are insane if you're spamming specials. As a Zab, all mind stats maxed with 2 brandies I still take a little bit of mind damage using a hammer at 25Mind cost. I can't spam specials with my Scythe unless I have a musician buff or rest every now and then.


So I say Damage all the way. Its just better to keep your weapons around longer and better on the HAM.









That just isnt the case because of the speed mods on specials. To see this lets look at 2 hammers a 5.4 speed 630max and a 3.6speed 466 assuming we always hit at this max value


1) speed slice using a special that does 4x damage and has a 2.5X delay


assuming no SEAs and using master swordsman only the speed slice will do 1864 damage every 2.25 sec for a DPS of 828


2) damage slice


again sam assumptions we will do2520 damage every 3.375 sec for a DPS of 747




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jaybee2003
Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:46 am
#20

I have a question about the range mods. I was able to obtain a free hammer from a friend. At first I thought it was a very nice hammer, 175-615 (33% dam slice, no Pup) 5.4, but looking at it now I see the range mods are -27/-27/-27. I'm not far enough in the speed tree to use this yet, but I was wondering how accurate this will be at Master +130 accuracy in PvE? PvP? I noticed my other hammer had range mods of -8/-8/-8.








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