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Thread: Proposal, all serious swordsman read

damonbrinkley
Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:25 pm
#14






Harmonius wrote:
We shouldn't be able to solo elders at all. There's your justification.






Agreed.


If we get an AP3 sword it needs to be quite slow. I don't think we need any new damage types personally. If I run into something that has high kinetic and blast damage then I call up a few friends with different professions.




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2-DIMENTIONALGUY
Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:01 pm
#15

No ranged profs don't get ackley bones, they get gorax bones and kryat tissue. I fall back on what I said forever ago. they need to revamp WS. They need to give WS the ability to build damage modules that determine the type of damae a weapon does (just like AS can build layers that determine the special protection type of an armor). That would give everyone every type of damage. Then they give WS the chance to experiment on AP to give them the chance to raise the natural AP of teh weapon by one, capping out at AP3. Yes Rifles would complain because thier precious T21 is already AP3, but it would give every other combat prof a chance to have a little bit better AP. Just make it hard for the WS to do and viola, the whining that exist on every combat prof board are solved. The only exception to this would, of coarse, be jedi and LS damage. Because an LS is an LS and no other weapon does LS damage.



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black666label
Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:09 pm
#16

Dude All we need is everyone running around with AP3 stun weapons. No way in hell a pistol should be able to peirce heavy armor. Oh yeah and a fencer doing AP3 with a Twig for a dang sword...Bull sh!t. WS is fine the way it is



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Noc-turnal
Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:56 pm
#17






damonbrinkley wrote:





Harmonius wrote:
We shouldn't be able to solo elders at all. There's your justification.






Agreed.


If we get an AP3 sword it needs to be quite slow. I don't think we need any new damage types personally. If I run into something that has high kinetic and blast damage then I call up a few friends with different professions.






/agree


no profession should be able to solo everything, rifleman can sorta do it if they wanna stay there for a day conceal shooting it which annoys me they can just set a macro and come back later......


we do not need AP3 weapons, imagine us with AP3 weapon when mitigation is removed thats 50% more damage please dont tell me that is in any way shape or form that this would be balanced. You get out damage my a rifleman then dont tank it for them, simple as that, they dont live love if something agrro it so let them die then pick up where you left off i know i do






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IthArReLLe
Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:03 pm
#18

ive done the math, at plain master sword its 45 minutes to solo an elder.


The line that "we shouldnt be able to solo elders at all" is complete bull, why at the top of a profession, with the best gear, and having monhts of practice witha profession *currently about what it takes to solo one* cant a player have a decent chance of soloing an elder. I for one am sick and tired of getting KSed on things like krayts by speed capped riflemen.



And of course, if it was an ar3 sword, the thing woul dhave a speed of around 9, meaning you would either have to spend 50-60mil on tapes or do fs melee speed and still buy like 25 mil worth of tapes to cap



but i refer back to the vision document, what we are all supposed to be working towards as the definition of our profession, we need an AR3 weopon to do that. It astounds me to see how everybody is so reluctant to ask for a new weopon, we have been begging for a new sword forever, why cant it be ar3, like our vision document states



blackgunz
Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:06 pm
#19






IthArReLLe wrote:

I think its time for us to ask for an AR3 sword, ive had enough of riflemen with +5 speed outdamageing me at +20



I really think that in order to fulfil our "vision" of being the shocktrooper of the melee professions, we need a weopon of this calibur,



I really think we should ask for an ice sword, since nobody has a good ice weopon anyway. It wouldnt be like asking for a AR3 stun weopon, and we may even get the devs to take us seriously



I just know we dont need another kinetic sword.


Anybody that wants to chime in can, just trying to drumm up support for something in the community and get away from the "omfg i just killed a gnort" posts






I just cant get this through my head, just exactly how does Cold penetrate armor


Im totally with this, but we really dont need another damage type



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Actairr
Sun Sep 19, 2004 9:53 pm
#20

This is all fine and good. Sure i would love an ar3 sword that did cold damage. But last month when i was master swords/master pistol i would have loved an ar2 pistol that did cold damage. Bottom line is we need to wait until the combat rebalance before we ask for stuff. Yes the combat balance is forever away but think of how much longer it would take if they stopped to give every prof a new weapon. On top of all this swordsman have gotten 2 new weapons since launch, while other profs skills/specials still remain broken. Swordsman is fine, i can kill anything in the game solo. Yes elders take a long time, but i team up with another swordsman and we take them out in 5 or less minutes. Add in the rifleman that joined us the other day and it is like 3 minutes an elder. Do the math. 2 swordsman 5 minutes an elder, that is 9 elders in 45 minutes, which means you get 4-5 loots because you teamed up with someone, versus the 1 loot in 45 minutes you get by yourself. Adapt and overcome is something that you all need to try. OH and as far as pvp goes, i killed a jedi solo today (he was low level though), and last week I killed a jedi knight that was unbuffed as i was unbuffed too. So we are not in bad shape.
sofrash
Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:25 am
#21

or a sword of fire maybe



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Frenzi
Mon Sep 20, 2004 2:26 am
#22

Id love an Ice Sword, especially as Krayts have very low resistance to Cold vs all other stats.



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TreindTyde
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:34 am
#23






2-DIMENTIONALGUY wrote:
No ranged profs don't get ackley bones, they get gorax bones(rather rare though wouldn'tyou say)and kryat tissue. I fall back on what I said forever ago. they need to revamp WS. They need to give WS the ability to build damage modules that determine the type of damae a weapon does (just like AS can build layers that determine the special protection type of an armor). That would give everyone every type of damage. Then they give WS the chance to experiment on AP to give them the chance to raise the natural AP of teh weapon by one, capping out at AP3. Yes Rifles would complain because thier precious T21 is already AP3, but it would give every other combat prof a chance to have a little bit better AP. Just make it hard for the WS to do and viola, the whining that exist on every combat prof board are solved. The only exception to this would, of coarse, be jedi and LS damage. Because an LS is an LS and no other weapon does LS damage.





It takes 11 krayt tissue to make a T-21, I have seen 2 base 11 sets and on like 42 dmg set. Those aren't worth the money. Acklay bones increase max AND min and these days in PvP min is more important. Acklay bones>gorax bones and krayt tisssue. Also, an AP3 stun vibro knuckler would just be insane. Even if it did only do like 10-50 dmg.



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TreindTyde
Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:38 am
#24






IthArReLLe wrote:

ive done the math, at plain master sword its 45 minutes to solo an elder.


The line that "we shouldnt be able to solo elders at all" is complete bull, why at the top of a profession, with the best gear, and having monhts of practice witha profession *currently about what it takes to solo one* cant a player have a decent chance of soloing an elder. I for one am sick and tired of getting KSed on things like krayts by speed capped riflemen.



And of course, if it was an ar3 sword, the thing woul dhave a speed of around 9, meaning you would either have to spend 50-60mil on tapes or do fs melee speed and still buy like 25 mil worth of tapes to cap



but i refer back to the vision document, what we are all supposed to be working towards as the definition of our profession, we need an AR3 weopon to do that. It astounds me to see how everybody is so reluctant to ask for a new weopon, we have been begging for a new sword forever, why cant it be ar3, like our vision document states







What I'm getting here, and this may just be the drift I get but just about all I see is "wahhhhhhhh i want to be the powerfullest profession in the game, balance is like French...we don't need it!!! and oh ya, devs, if you could make swordsman have an AP4 weapon like super heavy armor piercing that would be ub3r."




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Xflagger
Mon Sep 20, 2004 7:25 am
#25

I'm not a "serious" Swordsman, yet. But I read this post. Sorry.
_Vicious_
Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:15 am
#26






IthArReLLe wrote:

I think its time for us to ask for an AR3 sword, ive had enough of riflemen with +5 speed outdamageing me at +20



I really think that in order to fulfil our "vision" of being the shocktrooper of the melee professions, we need a weopon of this calibur,



I really think we should ask for an ice sword, since nobody has a good ice weopon anyway. It wouldnt be like asking for a AR3 stun weopon, and we may even get the devs to take us seriously



I just know we dont need another kinetic sword.


Anybody that wants to chime in can, just trying to drumm up support for something in the community and get away from the "omfg i just killed a gnort" posts






Someone just wants and easier time soloing Kryats. Get real. I dont we should be able to solo everything and to be able to solo a beast that could swallow you in on bite...........Get some common sense because you have none. Wait for the combat balance notes then start you noob whining. Another newbie begging for god mode

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