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Thread: Official combat upgrade link and notes

darth_new
Sun Mar 20, 2005 2:02 pm
#14






KardenTyrell wrote:





darth_new wrote:





Xanatosxtreme wrote:

This is gonna suck... I can see it all now, hey bro u wanna go do some krayts? Naa thats boring plus you need a group of 20 to take 1 down.... So now everyone can spend 5 hours trying to put a group together where ur buffs last like an hour... Not a upgrade its a nerf /cry






/agree


this combat upgrade (nerf) is as they say where im from bollocks








ask yourself this question first, why are you hunting krayts in the first place?




for tissue to make a nice rifle or pearls of my jedi m8.but the biggest reason is cos last time me and my m8 tryed to get some akl bones he was camped by 6 peeps and 1 jedi


ask yourself this........... why not?





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aljosha
Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:05 am
#15






zzzilla wrote:

that figures, i am fs melee speed, melee/ranged def, healing, msword/mdoc, no points left, im done. my profession s have both been nerfed. its over for me.





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Dread_111
Tue Mar 22, 2005 7:51 am
#16

I think it's just better when you have to group...it's more realistic, well how possible is it that you can kill a krayt single-handed?

I mean, if you have friends, then you will surely find a group to go hunting, if not, then I'm sorry for you, cuz always soloing isn't fun.

Arrabech
Tue Mar 22, 2005 8:07 am
#17






Dread_111 wrote:

I think it's just better when you have to group...it's more realistic, well how possible is it that you can kill a krayt single-handed?

I mean, if you have friends, then you will surely find a group to go hunting, if not, then I'm sorry for you, cuz always soloing isn't fun.






i agree and as long as they give us new and interesting critters to kill that drop loot as good as we get now i dont have a problem not being able to solo a krayt. but any new content will get old and boring eventually. when it does it would really suck if all i can do is go kill creetles and pikets.



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Arrabech
Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:13 pm
#18


why are they messing with the game so much....it seems to pretty much work.....there are some issues but they seem to be taking a drastic step solving them. it seems if they would listen to ALL the great advice they ask to hear posted in each forum and add some content alot of us would be very happy.


im really getting a bad feeling about this upgrade.......

Message Edited by Arrabech on 03-22-2005 12:14 AM



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PippinSith
Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:39 pm
#19

While I think everything is over powered I think there are better ways then making black holes for SP's.


I can't wait for the breakfast in Indy to see what the reasoning is behind all this.




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Jagbar
Wed Mar 23, 2005 9:49 pm
#20






shadowdefender wrote:
Click Here

NEW Profession Prerequisites:

* Rifleman = Marksman, Rifles Tree (4 boxes), Marksman Ranged Support Tree (4 boxes)
* Carbineer = Marksman, Carbine Specialization Tree (4 boxes), Marksman Ranged Support Tree (4 boxes)
* Pistoleer = Marksman, Pistol Specialization Tree (4 boxes), Marksman Ranged Support Tree (4 boxes)
* Pikeman = Brawler, Polearm Specialization Tree (4 boxes), Brawler Unarmed Specialization Tree (4 boxes)
* Swordsman = Brawler, 1H Sword Specialization Tree (4 boxes), Brawler, 2H Sword Specialization Tree (4 boxes)
* Fencer = Brawler, 1H Sword Specialization Tree (4 boxes), Brawler, Unarmed Specialization Tree (4 boxes)
* TKA= Brawler, Unarmed Specialization Tree (4 boxes), Brawler, 2H Sword Specialization Tree (4 boxes)
* Bounty Hunter = Marksman Ranged Support Tree (4 boxes), Scout Exploration Tree (4 boxes)
* Commando = Brawler, Unarmed Specialization Tree (4 boxes), Marksman Ranged Support Tree (4 boxes)
* Squad Leader = Marksman Ranged Support Tree (4 boxes), Scout Survival Tree (4 boxes)

Swordsman will basically have to take up 1h sword specialization (that formally of fencer) more of a skill point black pit

Message Edited by shadowdefender on 03-18-2005 08:16 PM



the one major thing i don't like about this is as swordsmen we are forced to pick up a branch that will be totally useless to us in combat while using 2handed weapons.. all ranged professsions have to pick up marksman ranged support.. but any bonuses and specials they get from that branch can be used for any ranged weapon.. any specials or bonuses we get from 1handed weapons branch can only be a benifit to us when we use a 1handed weapon. useless. classic case of devs trying to fix a broken system with a newer broken system.




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EnalaMasterDE
Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:11 am
#21

as i've said on the actual post, i'm off once the CU hits live, all the time, energy and money i have put into being a 'top' swordy, and it all goes down the pan cause the devs wanna make things better for the newcomers, and screw veterans over



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Jagbar
Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:36 am
#22






Dread_111 wrote:

I think it's just better when you have to group...it's more realistic, well how possible is it that you can kill a krayt single-handed?

I mean, if you have friends, then you will surely find a group to go hunting, if not, then I'm sorry for you, cuz always soloing isn't fun.






when will you dingbats get it through your thick skulls.. whats fun for one person isnt exactly fun for everyone else.. there is nothing fun about being required to pick up a branch that will have no benifit what so ever to your profession.. there is nothing fun about being nerfed so the current content is harder instead of the devs adding more high end content. oohh it's harder.. IT'S STILL THE SAME CONTENT! as others have said good loot is nearly non exsistant for anything but high lvl mobs. so oh great we get to still solo 10k ham mobs.. for what? a cdef pistol? freggin berries? and 100 credits? oooo excuse me while my jump straight out of my shoes with excitment.



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EnalaMasterDE
Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:40 am
#23






Jagbar wrote:





Dread_111 wrote:

I think it's just better when you have to group...it's more realistic, well how possible is it that you can kill a krayt single-handed?

I mean, if you have friends, then you will surely find a group to go hunting, if not, then I'm sorry for you, cuz always soloing isn't fun.






when will you dingbats get it through your thick skulls.. whats fun for one person isnt exactly fun for everyone else.. there is nothing fun about being required to pick up a branch that will have no benifit what so ever to your profession.. there is nothing fun about being nerfed so the current content is harder instead of the devs adding more high end content. oohh it's harder.. IT'S STILL THE SAME CONTENT! as others have said good loot is nearly non exsistant for anything but high lvl mobs. so oh great we get to still solo 10k ham mobs.. for what? a cdef pistol? freggin berries? and 100 credits? oooo excuse me while my jump straight out of my shoes with excitment.





i completely agree with you m8



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darth_new
Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:50 am
#24






Jagbar wrote:





Dread_111 wrote:

I think it's just better when you have to group...it's more realistic, well how possible is it that you can kill a krayt single-handed?

I mean, if you have friends, then you will surely find a group to go hunting, if not, then I'm sorry for you, cuz always soloing isn't fun.






when will you dingbats get it through your thick skulls.. whats fun for one person isnt exactly fun for everyone else.. there is nothing fun about being required to pick up a branch that will have no benifit what so ever to your profession.. there is nothing fun about being nerfed so the current content is harder instead of the devs adding more high end content. oohh it's harder.. IT'S STILL THE SAME CONTENT! as others have said good loot is nearly non exsistant for anything but high lvl mobs. so oh great we get to still solo 10k ham mobs.. for what? a cdef pistol? freggin berries? and 100 credits? oooo excuse me while my jump straight out of my shoes with excitment.







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Rayzah
Sat Mar 26, 2005 6:47 am
#25






Dread_111 wrote:

I think it's just better when you have to group...it's more realistic, well how possible is it that you can kill a krayt single-handed?

I mean, if you have friends, then you will surely find a group to go hunting, if not, then I'm sorry for you, cuz always soloing isn't fun.







Obviously you don't speak for everyone....


I'm a leader in a guild with 150+ people, so it's not about having no friends,


but everyone wants to do different things at different times, people are on at different times, different time zones.


I think it's cool to log on, get buffed and head straight to the krayt graveyard or NS stronghold know that you stand a chance and don't have to wait for anyone


even when you are with a group, it's good to have some assurance that everyone isn't gonna die and being strong gives everyone a level of confidence, which HELPS groups.


I mean, who wants to follow a group leader into battle knowing everyone is gonna die anyway?


Who wants to play the game knowing their toonwill always be weak, no matter the template?


Grouping might be more realistic for noobs, but those days are far behind me...... when it's time to get the credits to survive in the outrageous economy it's every man for himself






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slimmwhitman
Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:08 pm
#26

The thing that irks me about all of this is the grouping. I personally enjoy soloing, I hated the early days grouping with 6-10 people to hunt squills on tat and get jack squat for xp and money, and then only the person who does the most damage gets the loot.....


I wish they would try to find a balance. If they want to make some enemies non-soloable, fine beef them up, but please don't put us back to the days when it is difficult to solo low end mobs.....What they don't realize is that a purely group based game will make those of us who are casual gamers and only have a few hours to play a week not want to play anymore because half of my available time is used up looking for a group to join......


Please SWG be smart with this one.....
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