Swordsman Archive

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Evelas wrote:

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Crumbs wrote:

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Evelas wrote:

I just use my VK on lairs, takes em down fast.

So pretty much Scythe is only useful if your character isn't FS and Swordy is your only prof?

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Umm no. the scythe is good for defense stackers since the accuracy on it is much better then a PH and the damage range is tighter so it isn't as effected by mitigation. Scythe for stackers and the PH for pure ranged classes.

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Ohh, I forgot to add I also have FS accuracy, so the amount of misses I get is negligible.

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You still won't hit me with any consistency usingwhen I macro CoB as a fencer.

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Evelas wrote:

Ohh, I forgot to add I also have FS accuracy, so the amount of misses I get is negligible.

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Zarqon wrote:

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Evelas wrote:

Ohh, I forgot to add I also have FS accuracy, so the amount of misses I get is negligible.

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umm... the total branch of FS melee accuracy gives you +12. It's not like another +12 will make that much a difference if you already have 130-150 in accuracy. Sure you miss somewhat less, but nowhere negligible. As someone else also wrote, you will still miss a lot against swordsman or fencer with CoB.

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It did though...those FS mods really work well. I had a huge increase in speed and accuracy (I'm ex-commando, so you guys don't appreciate accuracy as much as I do)

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MoogleDee wrote:

Ok well... you could always put aesthetics into consideration. Would a SWORDsman usea big ol hammer or a blade with a handle built into it? In your situation perhaps sticking to your VK may be a good thing especialy considering costs, but cmon, scythes are one of the best looking weapons in the game.

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Nah, executioners hack look cooler in my opinion.

Also one thing to consider is that a scythe drains the mind pool more and a hammer drains the health.

If you ever fight unbuffed you will notice a big difference

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DrewBuddhaMan wrote:

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MoogleDee wrote:

Ok well... you could always put aesthetics into consideration. Would a SWORDsman usea big ol hammer or a blade with a handle built into it? In your situation perhaps sticking to your VK may be a good thing especialy considering costs, but cmon, scythes are one of the best looking weapons in the game.

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Nah, executioners hack look cooler in my opinion.

Also one thing to consider is that a scythe drains the mind pool more and a hammer drains the health.

If you ever fight unbuffed you will notice a big difference

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Crumbs wrote:

For a guy who is allegedly speed capped why are you even using tka in pve?

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There are some rare occassions where a monster or NPC has lower kinetic resiststhan blast - for those I pull out the scythe. Whether it is worth the cash to buy one for these occassionsis another matter that only you can really answer.

Also if you PvP, you will almost certainly want oneto fight certain templatesbecause of the accuracy factor. Hitting other players with a high defense templateis a *lot* harder than hitting any monsters or NPCs - the accuracy will help regardless of your FS status. For some people PvP is not a concern though - again this is a personal call.

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Crumbs wrote:

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Evelas wrote:

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Crumbs wrote:

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Evelas wrote:

I just use my VK on lairs, takes em down fast.

So pretty much Scythe is only useful if your character isn't FS and Swordy is your only prof?

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Umm no. the scythe is good for defense stackers since the accuracy on it is much better then a PH and the damage range is tighter so it isn't as effected by mitigation. Scythe for stackers and the PH for pure ranged classes.

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Ohh, I forgot to add I also have FS accuracy, so the amount of misses I get is negligible.

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You still won't hit me with any consistency usingwhen I macro CoB as a fencer.

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thats not what my snocake says!

With an acklay power hammer the accuracy will be -40. A scythe is usually in the positives if you get the swordcores made. That is a difference of at least 40 accuracy, +12 from FS is not going to make much of a difference. Master swordsmen have 135 accuracy which is the lowest of all the melee classes, TKM I think has 205 which is a big difference. Snowcake will add another 40 accuracy or so making your scythe 175 accuracy to your PHs 135. 175 is a lot better for hitting stackers then 135. If you had +25 accuracy in attachments, and the fs tree then you can consider using a PH, but if not using a PH against melee stackers in pvp will do more harm then good.

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Zarqon wrote:

Scythes usually still have better damage range than hammers. This might make a difference in PvP. But in PvE, no I guess it's rare that the blast resists are that much higher than kinetic.

hmm, but then again, lairs are bugged with blast damage, you don't get the addition for AP. A kinetic weapon will save you a lot of time on those.

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I agree with this one, in pvp unless you have a far better damage range acklay hammer, stick with the scythe for melee fights, and hammer for those with no melee mitigation. the scythe should have a good acc mod on it NOT minus something mod, the scythe then can double up as the magic dizzy status application. the acc mods makes a different. thats all i would add to it but Zarqon is spot on imo