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Thread: st gabe some intresting observations on the new genosian weapons
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haun
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:14 am
#1
i was looking at my friends disrupter rifle and i noticed a few things.
it has:
1. amazing accuracy - proably the best ive seen on a ranged weapon
2. it has acid damage (even though riflemen have stun, cold and heavy ap)
3. it has double the wound percentage of the scythe (aren't swordsman suppose to be the wounders?)
and the kicker
4. you can get the schematic over and over and over again simply by talking to an npc.
i did the dungeon when it first went live last week - then did it again this weekend and got a second rifle schematic.
how can they justify this in relation to the scythe?
it's not like riflemen need anymore love or better weapons.
they certainly don't need to be outwounding us.
this further backs up my feeling that the scythe isn't enough in its current form.
it should be heavy ap since it is kinetic or given some sort of special attack.
also the wound percent is way too low.
Rinova
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:37 am
#2
I dont know what kind of Scythe you have. But imo the Scythe is Useless on most enemies. Id doesnt as much damage as a Power hammer, Its accuracy isnt better, AP is Same, and Kinetic!!! You can throw it away in PvP cause everyone has 80% Kinetic. For what the Hell do we need a Weapon like that?! And its on Finesse 3 roflmao
haun
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:46 am
#3
the scythe is ok.........against armor it is pretty useless (we need heavy ap)
the damage per second is better........in pve it's great and still our best weapon in pvp (which is sad)
i wish those on test center would have tested and asked for more.
other professions seem to get quality weapons without even having to try.
maybe they hate swordsman
lammergeier
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:50 am
#4
I wish those on Live would remember that the devs do what they do no matter what TC reports.
Pvt
Mon Mar 01, 2004 10:54 am
#5
Rinova wrote:
I dont know what kind of Scythe you have. But imo the Scythe is Useless on most enemies. Id doesnt as much damage as a Power hammer, Its accuracy isnt better, AP is Same, and Kinetic!!! You can throw it away in PvP cause everyone has 80% Kinetic. For what the Hell do we need a Weapon like that?! And its on Finesse 3 roflmao
You have got to be kidding me. My scythe smokes the power hammer. Your really have no idea what you are talking about.
2.6
224-446 w/ powerup
al -1 range mods'
Show me a powerhammer that has higher DPS or better accuracy than that. The only thing good is that the powerhammer does blast damage.
haun
Mon Mar 01, 2004 11:09 am
#7
my 382-770 powerhammer smokes your scythe 
scythe are our best weapons for pvp this is true.........for now.
Rinova
Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:53 pm
#8
My Scythe is 1.8s 179-309 -1 -1 -4
My PH is 5.5s 162-604 -8 -9 -9
And i make a loota DPS more with my Hammer, i know its not the best Scythe, speed sliced too but i think it sucks.
haun
Mon Mar 01, 2004 12:58 pm
#9
well i don't see why other profession get such quality and unlimited schematics.
i think the scythe should be reworked.
StGabriel
Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:28 pm
#10
I don't know Gab, Warcry and Intimidate getting nerfed right after they nerfed bleed? A move like this tells me the Devs dont particularly care what we think.
They're listening. I get some good feedback, unfortunately that doesn't always mean positive changes.
I think that things are pretty firmly focused on the combat balance right now. That sucks in the meanwhile but I can't really do much but continue to push things out and keep our concerns on the dev's minds while they continue to work on things.
This evening sometime I'm gonna try to put up a summary of current Swordsman/Brawler issues on the Corr forum, including bleeds, intimidate, warcry and the Scythe.
StGabe.
They're listening. I get some good feedback, unfortunately that doesn't always mean positive changes.
I think that things are pretty firmly focused on the combat balance right now. That sucks in the meanwhile but I can't really do much but continue to push things out and keep our concerns on the dev's minds while they continue to work on things.This evening sometime I'm gonna try to put up a summary of current Swordsman/Brawler issues on the Corr forum, including bleeds, intimidate, warcry and the Scythe.
StGabe.
raider7734
Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:20 pm
#11
I don't know about you guys but I'd loveto have an AP3 blade.That's the difference between hitting mr. Krayt for 1000and hitting it for 2000 (before resists)
haun
Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:32 pm
#12
StGabriel wrote:
against armor it is pretty useless (we need heavy ap)
. Unfortunately it's not really that productive to say: ooooh, look what they got. The best I can do is express concerns mentioned here which I've done.
StGabe.
yah i was aware that AP2 is only a 25 percent bonus to dmg.
what else can i say?
one profession that doesn't need it gets a weapon that is twice as effective as a scythe.
when there are 30 riflemen running around on flurry hitting me with it i have to say something
i think all elites should be equalized in the sense that we all have good weapons -especially one in an advanced skill box.
im just bringing it to your attention because you're our corr, and hopefully you could mention that the scythe needs more work comparied to other elite weapons.
its not pointed at you cuz there isn't much you can do.
im just comparing and contrasting the riflemens new weapon with ours which i feel falls short in many ways.
the scythe was a good step but they didn't go far enough IMO.
hopefully the schematic thing is a bug --------course by the time its fixed every riflemen will have 20 or 30 of them to have sliced while we struggle on getting 2 thrown together.
Message Edited by haun on 03-01-2004 02:47 PM
EnragedMonkey
Mon Mar 01, 2004 3:33 pm
#13
Ah, the days when the Power Hammer was still AP Heavy... :l
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