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Thread: Combat Balance Dreams: Heavy AP

A_nita
Wed May 19, 2004 1:12 pm
#1

Of all the ranged profs, there is ONE reusable (read as: non charged) weapon with heavy armor piercing. the T21.

However, of all the melee profs, there are NO heavy AP weapons. We've seen two new weapons added to our prof. And sickeningly, the stats are so close as to not really make a difference. Why, oh why, do swordsman not have an AP3 weapon?
Rigphoria1
Wed May 19, 2004 8:29 pm
#2

i think pikemen should get ap3, not swordsmen.
Rotorion
Wed May 19, 2004 8:54 pm
#3

No swordsman are the heavy hitters, pikemen need to have their defenses raised to match or close to fencer levels in my opinion. They should deal states, KD, etc. They should hit about the same dmg as swordsman do now (medium ap). Swordsman should have AP 3 high dmg weapon and keep our current defenses. We are HEAVY swordsman even though our title doesn't say so any more.



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DirthNader
Thu May 20, 2004 4:53 am
#4






Rigphoria1 wrote:
i think pikemen should get ap3, not swordsmen.




Why? Pikemen are between fencer and heavy swordsman as far as damage output goes. They've gottwo AP1 weapons and one AP2 weapon. We've got, what, five AP2 weapons? That right there tells you who the heavy hitters are.





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MasterAkujin
Thu May 20, 2004 5:35 am
#5

i would like to see us get AP3 but do we really need it?


we seem to be able o kill most things anyway.






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Solarstryder
Thu May 20, 2004 6:54 am
#6

Giant 2-Handed Pick-Axe type thing would be cool. Great for opening up tin-can Stormtroopers.
Nymphotweety
Thu May 20, 2004 7:43 am
#7

I think Pikeman should get some love, and after mastering Brawler i sympathise with all of you buy like what was said above Pikeman should have half the defences of Fencer combined with half the damage of swordsman.

Anyway back on topic an AP3 sword would be great considering we are the Rifleman of Melee (In damage not PVP)



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notrom
Thu May 20, 2004 8:05 am
#8

i still cant hit a barn from the inside most of the time



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parplex
Thu May 20, 2004 11:55 am
#9

i dont want it because we will get nerfed, plain and simple. we dont need it, yea we are "heavy swords" but im happy with medium and can out dmg most if not all rifleman(assuming a 550 or so dmg t21). also when asking for this, remember the dmg types we get and the power of those weapons(i mean all faction equipment is blast vuln and we can get, with powerup 900+ dmg weapons), again it goes agiainst "heavy Swords", but screw it. i dont wanna get nerfed


as for pikeman, consider(IMHO) that our area is better then theres, yea, give em ap3, simply because they need more then just a bunch of ns dropped weapons.



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ThaWhiteKnight
Thu May 20, 2004 2:34 pm
#10

I doubt we'll get any extra AP. I am curious to see how they'll treat us. If it's anything like it has been in the past I won't hold my breath.
FearlessBob
Fri May 21, 2004 7:48 pm
#11

Imagine what I could do to Elders with AP3....*sigh*



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JCruz
Fri May 21, 2004 8:26 pm
#12

Meh, if anyone should get AP3, it's Jedi... They also need another damage type on the sabers.


After Jedi, Pikemen should be considered for an extremely rare AP3 weapon or buff their speed considerably.


Heavy Swordsmen are fine weapon-wise IMO and all they are really needing is more diverse specials. (sux they have to learn novice brawler lower posture without the range in their elite profession)


Give HS some more accuracy or some more speed as well as some more melee defence, but NO AP3 for you



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Cocomono
Sat May 22, 2004 4:32 am
#13

Blast damage is already unique enough for our profession. We already have the most potential damage output and an awesome secondary defense.


Swordsmen should be the base to balance everything against(not saying the profession to copy everything else to). I could go for another weapon damage type just because I like playing with new weapons, but AP3 would just be sick for damage. That'd mean we could solo kraytes in under 10minutes easily.





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