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Thread: Does Mind bleed stack?

WarFerret
Tue May 04, 2004 1:00 pm
#1

Nope, only 1 bleed per pool, per person at any time.


If you have two swordsmen you could both put a mind bleed on the target and they'd stack, but one person can't stack bleeds.


(our bleeds are all but useless at the moment, until that gets remedied I wouldn't bother with 'em)



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MasterAkujin
Tue May 04, 2004 1:39 pm
#2

yeah the bleeds suck atm. when mt mate was MS he could bleed somthing for 2k damage. now days its nothing like that.




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WarFerret
Tue May 04, 2004 2:41 pm
#3

Yeah, I remember being able to bleed for as much as a 2handheadhit3 *sigh*, given the ludicrous amount of HAM that NPCs have these days I don't see the problem with being able to hit for an extra couple k every 10-20 seconds.



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Nealoc187
Tue May 04, 2004 10:44 pm
#4



WarFerret wrote:
Nope, only 1 bleed per pool, per person at any time.
If you have two swordsmen you could both put a mind bleed on the target and they'd stack, but one person can't stack bleeds.
(our bleeds are all but useless at the moment, until that gets remedied I wouldn't bother with 'em)





Incorrect. Bleeds stack and have since day one. It is a common misconception that they don't stack anymore. They do, I've been doing it since the beginning and still do. Today I stacked 4 bleeds on the same pool on a target, and you can watch them all tick one right after the other. bleeds are nerfed and don't do much damage now, but they definately still stack.



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FtB
Tue May 04, 2004 11:53 pm
#5



Nealoc187 wrote:


WarFerret wrote:
Nope, only 1 bleed per pool, per person at any time.
If you have two swordsmen you could both put a mind bleed on the target and they'd stack, but one person can't stack bleeds.
(our bleeds are all but useless at the moment, until that gets remedied I wouldn't bother with 'em)





Incorrect. Bleeds stack and have since day one. It is a common misconception that they don't stack anymore. They do, I've been doing it since the beginning and still do. Today I stacked 4 bleeds on the same pool on a target, and you can watch them all tick one right after the other. bleeds are nerfed and don't do much damage now, but they definately still stack.


Hm.. will have to try that out..

Combined with Gammorean mind disease and my Vibro mind fire it could be a pretty useful combo in PvP..



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V3g3tto
Wed May 05, 2004 12:34 am
#6

Didnt see this is any FAQ's, so was wondering if the mind bleed from mind hit 2 stacked.





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Dromare
Wed May 05, 2004 4:36 am
#7

they bleeds would not tick at all different times. It would be one big bleed not like 4 small ones. Yes the bleeds do stack and the guy that posted before me is wrong about watching them tick 1-2-3. They will all tick at once.
Xlot
Wed May 05, 2004 4:39 am
#8



Nealoc187 wrote:

Incorrect. Bleeds stack and have since day one. It is a common misconception that they don't stack anymore. They do, I've been doing it since the beginning and still do. Today I stacked 4 bleeds on the same pool on a target, and you can watch them all tick one right after the other. bleeds are nerfed and don't do much damage now, but they definately still stack.




I concur. Bleeds do still stack, although the damage is tiny compared to how they used to work for us.

Can test this easily enough on something tough enough to withstand a few good whacks. Just lay on both bleeds, then peace, and watch for the numbers off their head

Sadly, I can't seem to get more than around 1200 points of bleed (combined for mindhit1 and 2), even using knockdown first. However, that combined with a mind-DoT lance still helps a lot on heavy-armored kills.

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comandobob
Wed May 05, 2004 5:00 am
#9

nice i never used these anymore because i though they scuked now but will try it later today and see my self




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WarFerret
Wed May 05, 2004 10:56 am
#10

That's interesting, they aren't supposed to stack any more (there was a big change a few months ago when the devs said stacking bleeds no longer worked), if they do it's a bug, not that I'm complaining.



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Akaya
Wed May 05, 2004 11:38 am
#11

How much dmg do our bleeds do these days? I have never used them.



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Nealoc187
Wed May 05, 2004 4:28 pm
#12

bleeds do 20% of what they used to, so whatever damage you can hit for with mind hit, divide that by 5 and that is the bleed you just put on it. it used to bleed for the full amount (i.e. 3500 mind hit would bleed for 3500, now a 3500 mind hit will bleed for 700).


The biggest single bleed I ever put on a mob was about 8000 on a knocked down giant krayt, largest ever on a standing mob was about 5500. this was with a 614dmg hammer with no powerup.



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Gimperial666
Wed May 05, 2004 11:32 pm
#13

I think our bleeds are so worthless now... such garbage. The devs cant even program NERFS properly... they STILL stack. I can slap 4 mind bleeds on a beastie or player AND a disease from the Gamoran... but guess what it still sucks. Our bleeds were our BEST PVP SKILL. Now its crap...and it was then polished up with some intial pool damage...

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