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Thread: Lunge nerf:

KreyMerr
Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:15 pm
#1

yup it seems that lunge and all version of it no longer KD. it goes without saying that all the brawler corrs were caught off guard by this and we are trying to figure it out.

so far TH says he is looking into it, so once he lets me know, ill let you know.



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APEist_Revenge
Thu Jun 16, 2005 5:28 pm
#2

ive messaged a few different devs with my own arguement (flame free of course) and included a few different links to various threads showing their overall disapproval of this change. also, i inlcuded my petition in their... hopefully at least 1 on of them will look at that. i think its in the mid 50's so far in /signs, but then again there arent too many melee char types now, so i see it as a fair amount. also, according to the brawler corrospondent, i did indeed get a response from a dev because of that thread, which makes me feel like at least it has been noticed (maybe not really thought about, but noticed).


but yes, this is an incredible nerf. noone cried for it. it was not overpowered. it came completely unsuspected. there seems to be no reason behind it.


it just doesnt make sence.




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Stealer-In
Thu Jun 16, 2005 6:54 pm
#3

it was our only way to get range people.../cry



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Psychopyro80
Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:03 pm
#4

I posted the response as well. The problem is that if you are either a fencer or swordsman, you do not have an advanced knock down ability. In fact if you are just swords, you have no KD attack at all. You also do not get the advanced KD like Pike and TK do. I still think they should put the KD effect back in lunge......

But if not, then they seriously need to add more damage, and maybe chill out the action cost a bit.



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SpunkyKuma
Thu Jun 16, 2005 10:10 pm
#5

Well, I found out about lunge not KD'ing today and boy it pisses me off, at least leg sweep still works but I see no reason why lunge was changed- it was an effective way to counter with the ranged guys.



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Ryuukon
Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:21 am
#6

Yeah it don't make sense why they nerfed Lunge. It's been a KD I think since Live. Why change it after 2 years... not a clue....



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Oboewan
Fri Jun 17, 2005 5:40 am
#7


I've loved swordsman soon after picking up the tree way... WAY back when this game first went live. I have sworn to always keep master swords and I've kept up with that goal- before CURB I was master bralwer which I have now dropped so I could be Master Rifle as well. I'm getting more and more fed up with this game every time I play/hear about another issue gone wrong.. another nerf... another correction of a problem that doesn't exist or affects 1% of the player base. Not only did they take away Swordsman's ability to tank... they took away our ability to pummel multiple mobs with our hammers/scythes, they taken away our last defence.... lunge... what used to be our only hope of preventing kiting in PVP and mobs "retreating" in PVE. Lunge was very useful in both group hunts, soloing, npc hunting, nightsisters, DJM etc.. and now it's gone..

What is left for the swordsman that makes it different or more desirable than the other melee professions? The power hammer?


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Jeisyn
Fri Jun 17, 2005 7:08 am
#8

this nerf really pisses me off.


as was mentioned - no one EVER complains about lunge/KD. it's been universally accepted as the anti-ranged special.
The KD timer worked fine...which is more than i can say for root/snare timers.


there is absolutely no freakin reason to nerf lunge.


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KreyMerr
Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:40 am
#9

i say that if lunge no longer KDs then neither should saber throw...



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KreyMerr
Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:00 pm
#10

one things for sure, if this is a real nerf im going to push for there to be a KD move in swordsman. may not have the extended range, but ive learned to take victories where I can get them.



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Psychopyro80
Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:12 pm
#11



KreyMerr wrote:
one things for sure, if this is a real nerf im going to push for there to be a KD move in swordsman. may not have the extended range, but ive learned to take victories where I can get them.




Don't worry, I'll help on this one....at least fencers got the basic TKA KD, if you are just swords, you get nothing



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KreyMerr
Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:15 pm
#12



Psychopyro80 wrote:


KreyMerr wrote:
one things for sure, if this is a real nerf im going to push for there to be a KD move in swordsman. may not have the extended range, but ive learned to take victories where I can get them.




Don't worry, I'll help on this one....at least fencers got the basic TKA KD, if you are just swords, you get nothing




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DarkBShadow
Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:41 am
#13


KreyMerr wrote:
i say that if lunge no longer KDs then neither should saber throw...




or give us a Weapon throw like saber throw but you need a certain weapon like trowing knives or something that have a use counter on it... and there you go... a lunge from a weapon... sounds better to me...

and maybe have one diffrent for each profession... Pike gets a lance to throw fencer gets the knives... Swordmen gets a hammer to trow... and tka get thoughs... err keep forgetin the names of it... Shuriken's... that i think would be cool... the hammer would do like massive damage and a kd but only at 10m lance less damage and at 12m fencer less damage and at 14m and TKa at 16m with even less damage... think that would be good addition if you take away our range KD put it back in with a more realistic maner of KD... throwing something at someone is alot easier to kd them then Lunding at them from 10-15m. sweeps are better at kd'ing then lunging.

Message Edited by DarkBShadow on 06-17-2005 03:45 PM



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