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I WAS FIGHTING A FENCER TONIGHT AND GOT KILLED WHEN I GOT CLOSE UP ON HIM IN A BUILDING. Sorry for the caps. I was fighting and I am a Master Squad Leader Master Rifleman. And I got killed. This is not the first time I have died of course. I just relized that I have been a SL for over a year now and not a damn thing has been or is going to be done for it so I am dropping this POS profession for something where I get real defenses. Good bye Squad Leader after one year. I hate you sony you SORRY SOB's

Message Edited by FWH_James on 10-11-2004 05:52 PM

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irott wrote:

Awww.. FWH.

Now was that really called for?

I mean, I always die when I get near fencers. Most everyone does, besides other fencers.

Its PvP thats screwed up.

But I just want to make sure everyone knows.

EVERY COMBAT PROFESSION WILL NOT FUNCTION AS IT DOES NOW.

After the CB you may not want a profession with good defenses... its gonna be that crazy.

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I hate to do this, but here it goes.

Irott, you and the other correspondents have lost ALL credibility with me. I really thought the correspondent system would be a great way to get player ideas into the game to improve the experience for us all. Now I see it's just another way for SOE to pretend to listen, while they continue to just do whatever they feel like.

They keep saying that we'll all see the Combat Revamp docs before they're implemented, so the community can comment and make suggestions. Well, the comments that you and the other Correspondents have been making plainly show that the Combat Revamp is already underway and has made a fair bit of progress into a pretty revolutionary change in how combat works in SOE. But none of the players have the slightest idea of what's going on, and we're purposely being kept in the dark. Presumably, this is so SOE won't have to put up with all the flames they know they're going to get when they roll out a system that the players didn't ask for, and haven't had any say in.

There I've said it. I started dropping Squad Leader two months ago when it became apparent that SOE had no intention of fixing or revamping it anytime soon (We're After the Combat REvamp, After JTL, if they even have time to work on it before the next expansion & in-between tweaks and bug fixes on JTL). So I've gone FOTM & Become a BH/Master Carbineer, and enjoying it. I kept a few SL abilities for the few group hunts I participate on, but plan to drop them while I do the all-consuming Jedi grind (Don't want the Jedi, just want the 2nd char slot).

There.. I feel better... Flame away, I don't care anymore...

Message Edited by Yeraze on 10-11-2004 11:52 PM

Message Edited by Soda_Jedi on 10-11-2004 11:26 PM

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irott wrote:

Once JTL is stable and released, we can get down to business.

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irott wrote:

Thanks for saying it straight.

You are correct that its being worked on at this moment, but it is in no way set in stone.

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Well that's kinda the problem.. I've been a Software Engineer for 12 years or so, so I kinda know something about software development. ANY development, once started, becomes increasingly difficult to change as more work is done. That's why we do Design before Development, and ghastly documents like "Software Design Specifications" and flow-charts were invented. The simple fact that code is being written means that YES, some things ARE written in stone. They may be tiny, seemingly insignificant things, but I guarantee you that they will become blockers or hindrances for things we want later.

I just know that this is going to lead to a repeat of the current situation, where the implementation is so far away from what anyone wants that when the devs break down and decide to change it, it'll be another 18 month wait while they gut the entire system & redo it.

There's nothing but good warm fuzzies for all that can come from getting us involved sooner rather than later.

Message Edited by Yeraze on 10-12-2004 09:53 AM

Message Edited by Yeraze on 10-12-2004 09:54 AM

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Blackferne wrote:

Well look at it this way. The CB is supposed to change the way everybody fights. Currently everyone who fights PvP is a fencer/TK or some gimmicky template. The CB can only improve on that and open it up so EVERY proffession has strengths and weaknesses. If they don't at least aim for that goal given over a year's worth of game data then post CB the game will shut down.

Look at the lessons they've learned and will have to address

Knockdowns can't be spammed (implementation of a KD timer)

Mind poisons don't have a sufficient counter (CM nerf)

Defense stacking made some templates impossible to hit (instituted stat caps)

You know that if these tweaks went into the current scenario, then they know that other things are going to have to be addressed in the CB.

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Well, my counter argument to this is that unless they open it up for public scrutiny while there's still type to do extensive changes, then nothing will change. Just what gimmicky templates "win" will be different in the new system. Right now they have 10 eyes (30 if you count correspondents) looking at it, when they could have a few thousand if they would tell us.

And I expect that the truly gifted people who really are PVP Guru's because they know all the game mechanics & systems, aren't correspondents.

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Yeraze wrote:

And I expect that the truly gifted people who really are PVP Guru's because they know all the game mechanics & systems, aren't correspondents.

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